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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 07:51 AM
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U.S. jobless claims (422,000) climb to 6-week high
http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/newsfinder/pulseone.asp?guid={87C7854E-4797-4A3C-A738-0EB13FD6E1E3}&siteid=mktw&dist=bnb

WASHINGTON (CBS.MW) - U.S. unemployment lines grew longer in the past couple of weeks, the Labor Department reported Thursday. The average number of first-time applications for state unemployment benefits over the past four weeks rose by 4,500 to 407,250, the highest in six weeks. The number of new claims in the week ending Sept. 6 rose by 3,000 to 422,000, the most in two months.

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JPace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 07:54 AM
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1. Yup....AWOLs big tax cuts for the rich
are really paying off!
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 07:56 AM
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2. Jobless recovery.
Not looking good for Bush as we head into the campaign season.
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:32 AM
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6. Make that jobLOSS recovery
EOM!!!



DEAN in 2004
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:05 AM
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3. You can almost here the shrill cries from the right already.....
Edited on Thu Sep-11-03 08:05 AM by liberal_veteran
"trailing indicator! trailing indicator! trailing indicator! trailing indicator!"

God how I despise those right wing apologist fucktards.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:09 AM
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4. Looks like American Airlines is going to be closing their overhaul base
in Kansas City next month. It's coming down to a contest between Dallas and KC, with the base in Tulsa OK staying put. I don't give KC a snowball's chance, so, there's going to be 3000 more people out of work here and then there is the ripple effect.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:07 AM
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10. Yup. Not in the can yet, but Tulsa voted $22 million bond issue
It's all over but the ribbon-shredding ceremony.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:18 AM
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5. Last night Lou Dobbs announced 4 major companies...
with announced layoffs in the thousands. The unemployment is much higher than reported because people who have already exhausted their employment benefits, even though out of work, are not counted. Also, there are people who are forced into part time jobs, and they have no hope of finding a full time job. Part time jobs with no benefits which also raises the number of people with no health insurance.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:57 AM
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9. You're exactly right
This really doesn't count the true number of unemployed and there are plenty of desperate people who have taken much worse jobs or who are just getting by on contract work.

But, the really important think is productivity numbers are up, which is good for our corporate overlords, more work out of less people for less wages = increased profits. Must be time for another million dollar bonus.

My belief is that it is not that the Repugs don't know how to run the economy — if you look at trend lines for the past couple decades, this happens every time they are in office — but that this is exactly the economy they want. As an added bonus, people look to the military and reserves for opportunities or to help pay for college.
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ferg Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:10 AM
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11.  the unemployment rate is a survey
Today's report is based on unemployment insurance.

The unemployment rate (6.1%) is based on a survey. It has nothing to do with unemployment insurance.

But you're exactly right that going from a good job to a rotten job still counts as employed. Getting by on contract work or a part time job also counts as employed. Also, if you "give up" looking, you don't count as unemployed.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:11 AM
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12. They love high unemployment....
this is a way for the bushies to get rid of all government programs, social security, welfare, public schools, etc. collect less taxes and to hell with the poor of this country. But higher gainings for the rich. They do all this in the name of Christ, God, Jesus. Krugman is so right in his book.
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JPace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 04:18 PM
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22. "this is exactly the economy they want"

You are right....the problem they (repugs)
have is getting people to keep voting for
them in spite of a terrible economy. That
must be why they are taking over voting
machines. That way they can quit even
pretending to care!
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:13 AM
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13. Don't forget the other shoe...
Countless state and local governments (and non-profit organizations) depend on federal funding. When the federal fiscal year ends on September 30th, you're going to see big spike in unemployment as those entities lay off workers that they can no longer keep on the payroll.

When the employment figures finally start to moderate, keep an eye on individual after-tax earnings. Right now it's a buyer's market for labor, so unemployed workers are taking jobs that pay much less than their old jobs.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:54 AM
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15. Heee.Heee..Heee....Democrat-Run Governors....
Fiscal responsible. Their states are doing better than Repig states.
New Mexico, Arizona., etc.
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:41 AM
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7. So of course the stock market opens up
More unemployment, more profits.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 08:56 AM
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8. Yup, it's getting worse not better
We need MORE taxcuts dammit!
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 09:46 AM
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14. They're starting to kick in . . .
kicking the middle class in the teeth.

Angry people in voting booths?
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 10:08 AM
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16. If People Aren't Working, Then They're Not Paying Taxes
So, where's Bush gonna get that additional $87 billion for Iraq?
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fizzana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 10:43 AM
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17. A jobless(loss) recovery is not a recovery. n/t
n/t
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 11:32 AM
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18. Amen!
You can't build a recovery on cheap debt. It won't last.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 02:15 PM
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19. Being unemployed is a state of mind to me, I haven’t been..............
Unemployed for more than a week in my life as a mechanic. I kind of wish I couldn't find a job as easy. Kicking back for a few months sounds good sometimes. Everybody has their own row to hoe. Just think Nixon was forced to resign his job (which would mean to me, that he was a traitor to our country). Giving any of these folks or crooks a free pass on their mistakes and misdeeds only compounds them. Unemployment is result of playing their game their way

That's not to say one could not see this coming back in the early 80's or even early 60's. The pukes have wanted to dismantle the New Deal and any other governmental reforms they encountered even before the gilded age (1890's)

They have reached the culminations of their efforts (took them over a century) to get to that place where they could do it, and now they are proceeding full speed ahead.

http://www.namebase.org/pirpost.11
MAIGALOMANIA!

Citizens and the Environment
Sacrificed to Corporate Investment Agenda

A BRIEFING BY CORPORATE EUROPE OBSERVATORY (CEO)

February 1998

(snip)
Competitive Deregulation

The surge in investment in the Third World can be attributed to a
few key factors:

* trade liberalization and low transport costs which make it
possible to supply any market from anywhere in the world;
* the low wages and access to cheap raw materials available in
the Third World and former communist countries;
* the need to win new markets after the North has been
"saturated" (resulting in "low" growth);
* the removal of barriers to foreign investment in many Third
World countries, in part through bilateral and regional
investment agreements;
* and the increased competition to attract FDI which leads some
countries to lower or freeze labour and environmental
standards and to offer corporate subsidies and tax holidays.

This competitive deregulation and increase in corporate welfare
is also visible in the North. According to UNCTAD, corporate
taxes within the OECD have decreased from 43 percent in 1986 to
33 percent today, and many EU countries are caught in a downward
spiral.

Lifting All Boats?

The OECD claims that economic globalization in general and
increased foreign investment in particular will improve living
standards all over the world. However, the experiences of
countries which have removed all barriers to foreign investment
by joining free trade agreements are quite different. For
example, since Mexico signed the NAFTA, real wages in the country
have dropped 45 percent, two million people have become
unemployed, and the percentage of the population considered
"extremely poor" has risen from 31 percent in 1993 to 50 percent
today. <9> It has been demonstrated that those who suffer most
from the conditions created with these free trade agreements and
the consequent emergence of free trade zones are women and
children.

UNCTAD's 1997 Trade and Development report concludes that
globalization in its current shape is responsible for a dramatic
increase in global inequality. In 1965, the average personal
income in G-7 countries was 20 times that in the seven poorest
countries in the world. In 1995, the gap was 39 times as large.
Polarization and income inequalities are also growing within
countries: the share of income going to the top 20 percent of the
population has increased almost everywhere since the early 1980s.
UNCTAD blames the liberalization of market forces for these
developments, and considers the current situation inevitable
until regulation of the economy is put back on the agenda.

The Art of Job Killing

Although TNCs present themselves as creators of wealth and
employment, the figures reveal something different. In fact, one
of the main characteristics of a competitive and successful TNC
is the "shedding" of jobs. Between 1993 and 1995, global turnover
of the top-100 TNCs increased by more than 25 percent, but during
this same period the same companies cut 4 percent of their global
workforce of 5.8 million -- over 225,000 people. <10> TNC
tendencies towards mergers, relocations, automatization and
centralization of production and distribution are recipes for job
losses. A part of the obsolete workforce might be employed by
subcontractors, a "trouble-free" source of labour which TNCs
increasingly make use of. Subcontractors are often skilfully
played off against each other, resulting in lower prices as well
as reduced wages and worsened working conditions. Another
unfortunate fact about FDI is that it very often leads to the
buying up and restructuring of local companies so that they can
produce more with fewer employees. Around 2/3 of all FDI in the
period 1986-92 consisted of mergers and take-overs. <11>

The sad truth about TNCs is that the increased growth,
investment, monopolization and concentration upon which they rely
-- as well as the resulting job losses and environmental
degradation -- are a structural characteristic of the current
neoliberal economic model. However, the voices calling for a halt
to this endless pursuit of deregulation are growing louder, and
are more often coming from unexpected sources. UNCTAD's World
Investment Report 1997 ends with a warning to world leaders that
the activities of TNCs and their market powers can in fact
undermine the health of the global economy.(snip)
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 03:04 PM
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21. unemployment
nolabels said:

"I kind of wish I couldn't find a job as easy. Kicking back for a few months sounds good sometimes."

You must be joking. It's not a walk in the park to be unemployed. It's not a "sit back, collect your huge govt. unemployment check for a year, pop bon-bons in your mouth & watch TV" type of existence. Looking for another job is a full-time job in itself, even if the economy isn't dying like it is now. It's extremely hard to find work now for all but a few professions.



"Statistically speaking, it's easier to get accepted into Harvard University than to get a job in this economy."

--CBS News, 8/1/03



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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 04:26 PM
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23. Not joking
My wife had the problem of thinking she could not find a job a few years ago. She has also kind of figured it out, that if you set your mind to it that it can be done. Anticipating a good or bad economy, building and diversifying your skills, being interested in other peoples things and difficulties and how they relate to everybody else.

So many things to do and so little time to do them, I would even go as far to say that this lousy economy is a direct reflection of that lazy slug they appointed over us, but that would be talking politics. Opps :bounce:
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 02:39 PM
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20. Looks like the Bush tax cuts are kicking in.
Yayy Bush!!
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 04:53 PM
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24. Yet the whoring continues on CNN
The cute little airhead this afternoon on the Headline News propaganda arm glossed it over and gushed about how the Dow was up. She even managed to say "jobless recovery" with a straight face.

Of course, she would have no clue as to what that phrase really means, would she?

:argh:
dbt
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