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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:10 PM
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Gary Webb dead of self inflicted gunshot woundS!
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 12:16 PM by tinanator
I just heard this on Living Room with Larry Bensen.
Anybody have links?
This is terrible.

http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/story/11744167p-12630255c.html

self inflicted gunshot WOUNDS to the head?
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:12 PM
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1. Gads
Not another one! Hope it's not true.
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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:12 PM
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40. Damn! Wonder if he was working on Votergate stuff ala Madsen? n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:51 PM
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46. 2 journalists dead on 12/10/04 ??? Coincidence?
Former Indiana journalist killed while walking dog
Friday December 10, 2004

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) Beverly Kees, former editor of the Post-Tribune in Gary (Indiana), was killed today in San Francisco when a truck hit her as she walked a friend's dog.

Police say there do not appear to have been any traffic violations and the driver of the truck has not been arrested. An investigation into Kees death continues.

(snip)

Along with Bill Phillips, Kees wrote ``Nothing Sacred: Journalism, Politics and Public Trust in a Tell-All Age.'' She had also served for the Associated Press Managing Editors Association as committee chair, board member and secretary.

http://cbs2chicago.com/indiana/IN--Obit-Kees-inn/resources_news_html
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:31 AM
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156. OMG! THIS is what he was working on- ARMY RECRUITING TACTICS!
http://www.newsreview.com/issues/sacto/2004-10-14/cover.asp
We wonder what new threat he posed if he was still around at this point, right?

If Webb was rubbed out (likely, not proven), I think THIS IS WHY:

HE EXPOSED HOW THE ARMY PROFILES AND TRAINS TEENS USING PSY-OPS ON THE INTERNET AND VIDEO GAMES!

Lack of not just fodder, but highly-skilled kids who can kill effectively under stress are what the BFEE/PNAC Empire DESPERATELY NEEDS TO CONQUER THE WORLD by operating the machines of war.

A sophisticated 'first-shooter' game called 'Americas Army' was developed by the US military to both train, indoctrinate, and research the young minds they need. Free on line. Very popular.

Webb had the drop on them for using cocaine money and he had the drop on their NEW SCAM-USING THE DRUG OF VIDEO GAMES TO EXPLORE AND BEND MINDS. (Of course, that's what TV has been doing for over 50 years.)

Read it and weep for both our kids and their victims:

>snip<

If, like the U.S. Army, you need people who can become unflappable killers, there’s no better way of finding them. It’s why the Army has spent more than $10 million in taxpayer funds developing its very own first-person shooter, and why the Navy, the Air Force and the National Guard are following suit.

>snip<

“I have to laugh when someone says, ‘Oh, the people playing these games know it’s not real,’” said Dr. Peter Vorberer, a clinical psychologist and head of the University of Southern California’s computer game research group. “Of course they think it’s real! That’s why people play them for hours and hours. They’re designed to make you believe it’s real. Games are probably the purest example yet of the Internet melding with reality.”

>snip<

Stanford University psychology professor B.J. Fogg isn’t surprised to see such dedication to a computer game.

“Video games, better than anything else in our culture, deliver rewards to people, especially teenage boys," said Fogg, who studies the effects of computer games. “Teenage boys are wired to seek competency. To master our world and get better at stuff. Video games, in dishing out rewards, can convey to people that their competency is growing, you can get better at something second by second."

>snip<

As the number of people playing Counter-Strike soared into the millions, the U.S. Army could only watch wistfully. For years, Army recruiters had diligently pursued the very same demographic-- middle-class teenage males--with dwindling success.

In late 1999, after missing their recruiting goals that year, Army officials got together with the civilian directors of a Navy think tank at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey to discuss ways of luring computer gamers into the military.

Combat gamers not only happened to target the right age for the Army’s purposes but, more importantly, possessed exactly the kind of information-processing skills the Army needed: the ability to think quickly under fire.

“Our military information tends to arrive in a flood ... and it’ll arrive in a flood under stressful conditions, and there’ll be a hell of a lot of noise,” said Col. Casey Wardynski, a military economist who came up with the idea for an official Army computer game. “How do you filter that? What are your tools? What is your facility in doing that? What is your level of comfort? How much load can you bear? Kids who are comfortable with that are going to be real comfortable ... with the Army of the future.”

From an Army report: “Aptitudes related to information handling and information culture values are seen as vital to the effectiveness of the high-tech, network-centric Army of the future, and young American gamers are seen as especially proficient in these capabilities. More importantly, when young Americans enter the Army, they increasingly will find that key information will be conveyed via computer video displays akin to the graphical interfaces found in games.”

With the vast funding of the U.S. government behind them, the Army/Navy team began developing a game that hopefully would turn some of its players into real soldiers. “The overall mission statement ... was to develop a game with appeal similar to the game Counter-Strike,” wrote Michael Zyda, the director of the Navy think tank. “We took Counter-Strike as our model, but with heavy emphasis on realism and Army values and training.”

An experimental psychologist from the Navy helped tweak the game’s sound effects to produce heightened blood pressure, body temperature and heart rate. It was released in digital double surround sound, which few games are. In terms of game play, it was designed as a “tactical” shooter, slower-paced, more deliberate, but with Counter-Strike’s demanding squad tactics and communications--a “serious” game for kids who took their war gaming seriously.

After two years of development, America’s Army was released to the public on the first Fourth of July after 9/11. The gaming world gasped and then cheered. Contrary to expectations, the government-made shooter was every bit as good a $50 retail shooter and, in some ways, better. Plus, it was free--downloadable from the Internet at www.americasarmy.com. That, too, was a calculation--one the Army hoped would weed out people who didn’t know much about computers. The game and its distribution system were difficult by design, Zyda said.

“That was a very key thing. First, they would have to be smart enough to download the game off the Internet. Then, they would have to become good at , which isn’t easy. To attract those kinds of people, that was the mission. That’s what we were looking for.”

The game does a good job separating the wheat from the chaff. Before you’re allowed to join an online game, you must undergo weapons training and send your firing range scores to the Army. If you’re a lousy shot, you can’t play. Once inside the game, it gets no easier. The virtual battlefield is enormous, and your enemy is often hidden under cover of darkness. “Newbies” are quickly cut to pieces. Unlike Counter-Strike, America’s Army players aren’t allowed to be on the terrorists’ side. Your team always looks like American soldiers, and the other team always looks like terrorists (or “OPFORs” in Army lingo, meaning “opposing forces.”)

In the wake of 9/11, the public and media reaction was, in the Army’s words, “overwhelmingly positive.” Salon’s Wagner James Au, for example, gushed that the game would help “create the wartime culture that is so desperately needed now” and excitedly anticipated the day when youngsters raised on America’s Army would pick up real weapons to cleanse the globe of real terrorists. Most media accounts focused on the novelty of using a video game to help find recruits and carried jocular headlines like “Uncle Sim Wants You.”

“We thought we’d have a lot more problems,” Zyda said. “But the country is in this mood where anything the military does is great. ... 9/11 sort of assured the success of this game. I’m not sure what kind of reception it would have received otherwise.”

There are now more than 4 million registered users, more than half of whom have completed weapons training and gone online to play, making it the fourth most-played online shooter. The Army says there are 500 fan sites on the Web, and recruiters have been busy setting up local tournaments and cultivating an America’s Army “community” on the Internet, hoping to replicate the Counter-Strike phenomenon.

“With respect to recruitment, actual results won’t be known for four or five years, when the current raft of 13- and 14-year-olds will be old enough to join,” Zyda wrote.


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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:00 PM
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158. Thanks JohnOneillsMemory
But not everyone saw the game as a good thing. A Miami attorney named Jack
Thompson went on ABC News and threatened to seek an injunction, saying it
wasn’t the government’s job to provide kill ’em games to youngsters. He was
deluged with angry e-mail and allegedly received death threats.

“The Army and the Defense Department have a very long history of conducting
unethical, illegal experiments upon soldiers and civilians,” Thompson angrily
reminded players in a posting to the official Army Web site. “This 'game’ is yet
another experiment upon the unsuspecting pawns who play it. You are the latest
guinea pigs.”

Thompson was more right than he knew. Recruiting computer gamers was only
one of the goals behind the creation of America’s Army. The other purpose,
aptitude testing of potential recruits, has gotten virtually no publicity.

http://www.newsreview.com/issues/sacto/2004-10-14/cover.asp

Black water?

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/121304_gary_webb.shtml

Webb reminds us that the Reagan-approved contra program attracted lowlifes and thugs the way
manure draws flies. He guides the reader through a netherworld of dope-dealers, gunrunners, and
freelance security consultants, which on occasion overlapped with the U.S. government. He
entertainingly details the honor, dishonor and deals among thieves. (Sometimes the book reads
like a hard-to-follow Russian novel, with a large cast of characters in a series of intricate
episodes.) All in all, it's a disgraceful picture -- one that should permanently taint the happy-face
hues of the Reagan years.

http://www.thenation.com/capitalgames/index.mhtml?bid=3&pid=2066

"When you open that can of worms, as Goldstein pointed out to me, how do you
stop it? How do you stop where those worms are going to go? And pretty soon, if
you keep opening that can of worms, the American people are going to start to
be told the great big truths, that no one in Washington, neither side of the aisle,
no politician wants them to be told; that, in fact, the CIA has long trafficked in
narcotics, that there does exist a military-industrial complex, which was
specifically put together to support a right-wing political cabal and to foster this
cabal within the Republican Party, that there has been countless trillions of
dollars of public monies defrauded by a very small group of people in the
post-war era.

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=43&contentid=1519&page=2
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:12 PM
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2. Is that Gary Webb of 'Dark Alliance' and the CIA-drug connection
investigator?

Damn. That is terrible.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:09 PM
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121. Yes, that's the one.
We saw this in this morning's Anchorage Daily News. I don't believe it was a suicide for one second.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:13 PM
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3. Pardon my ignorance, but who is Gary Webb?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:33 PM
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53. He was an investigative reporter
"When the Nicaraguan contras began to covertly fund their war against the Sandanistas by selling drugs and guns to California street gangs, the Central Intelligence Agency turned a blind eye. While black neighborhoods were being ravaged by the crack cocaine plague, CIA operatives actively participated in this devastating drug explosion, protected from prosecution by a secret agreement between the Department of Justice and the CIA. The bastards knew it was happening, and they did nothing to stop it. Once again, human rights and human life took a back seat to "national security" considerations.

Nevertheless, thanks to investigative journalists like Bob Parry and Gary Webb, the story got out."

http://www.parascope.com/mx/articles/garywebb/garyWebbSpeaks.htm

I wonder if he was working on something pretty big?

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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:13 PM
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4. Here it is
From the Mercury, no less. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/10399522.htm
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:44 PM
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17. his reporting was daring, well researched and riveting
read the whole dark alliance story when it came out inthe merc news. After having lived and work through the "crack" explosion in Detroit in the early nineties - the story was of extreme interest to me. This is very sad news.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:44 PM
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18. It's really annoying that the Mercury News did a backward shuffle..
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 12:46 PM by lostnfound
even in this article.

"Mr. Webb was perhaps best known for sparking a national controversy with a 1996 story that contended supporters of a CIA-backed guerrilla army in Nicaragua helped trigger America's crack-cocaine epidemic in the 1980s. The ``Dark Alliance'' series in the Mercury News came under fire by other news organizations, and the paper's own investigation concluded the series did not meet its standards.

Mr. Webb resigned a year and a half after the series appeared in the paper."


Yes, the paper 'came under fire' and they might think the story wasn't up to its standards -- but by saying only that, they imply it wasn't true. The story was later confirmed. "Into the Buzzsaw" had some great essays on it.
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Sporadicus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:13 PM
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5. Gary Webb, 49, former MN reporter, author
INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST WROTE CONTROVERSIAL SERIES

By Jessica Portner

Mercury News


Gary Webb, a former Mercury News investigative reporter, author and legislative staffer who ignited a firestorm with his controversial stories, died Friday in an apparent suicide in his suburban Sacramento home. He was 49.

The Sacramento County coroner's office said that when A Better Moving Company arrived at Mr. Webb's Carmichael home at about 8:20 a.m. Friday, a worker discovered a note posted to the front door which read: ``Please do not enter. Call 911 and ask for an ambulance.''

Mr. Webb, an award-winning journalist, was found dead of a gunshot wound to the head, Sacramento County Deputy Coroner Bill Guillot said Saturday.

Mr. Webb's friends and colleagues described him as a devoted father and a funny, dogged reporter who was passionate about investigative journalism.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/10399522.htm?1c
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:30 PM
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77. The note on the door is peculiar
... a worker discovered a note posted to the front door which read: ``Please do not enter. Call 911 and ask for an ambulance.''

If he intended to kill himself, did he make this decision shortly before the van was to arrive? Why didn't he just call the company and cancel?

Also, why the request for an ambulance? The police would be the ones to call, unless he thought he would survive. Why would anyone think they're going to survive a shot to the head?

A gunshot to the head is not a "cry for help." It is a deliberate attempt to end one's life if self-inflicted, and a cold and calculated method of ending someone's life if your intent is homicide.

I am very suspicious of all the "suicides" of those who investigate the BFEE, for they are known to follow the adage: Revenge is a dish which is best served cold. What better cold-blooded time for revenge, a time when they would arouse the least suspicion, than when a man is going through an emotionally difficult time.



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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:36 PM
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105. Actually, it's not - let me explain
After my cousin committed suicide 2 years ago, I did some online research into it. Someone said she had gotten imformation from a website. During the process of my search, I saw on several sites the recommendation that you do just what he did. Put a note on the door indicating that 911 needs to be called to spare any innocent parties from being traumatized by what they will find inside.

Last year I believe, there was a story about two young women who had taken their lives at a hotel and they had done the same thing.

Suicidal courtesy and all..... how sad.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:32 PM
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125. I understand the courtesy aspect
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 07:33 PM by Straight Shooter
People who are suicidal, if they aren't entirely non compos mentis, are sometimes quite courteous of those who might stumble upon the scene. I know of a woman who rented a hotel room, went into the bathtub and pulled the bedspread over herself before putting a bullet in her head. She made sure not only that no one (hopefully) but the police would see her "remains," but that the cleanup would be easy. Very sad when you think of someone who is so polite putting an end to their life.

My puzzlement stems from the request to call an ambulance, rather than the police. We ask for an ambulance if we are in extremis and want to live.

edit for clarity
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:02 AM
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135. This is CRAP!!!!
The Mercury bailed on Gary Webb.

They folded to the power of the subservient press -- L.A. Times, N.Y. Times and Wash. Post. The major media was so fucking afraid of reagan that they bent over backwards to screw Webb in order to save their access to reagan.

They didn't mention THAT in their lukewarm, lying little screed about Mr. Webb...



:nuke: bush


and :nuke: the mendacious maggots of the mass media
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:15 AM
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144. Not Reagan, Bush
Is GHWB really the invisible man? No one ever gives him credit where its due. Ronald Reagan was a doddering old victim of Bush, he had no leadership say in what went down after Hinckley. Reagan wasnt a drug/pharmaceutical energy overlord, just an actor, a B movie chimp exploiter. Funny how life turned that around on him.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:19 PM
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6. Here is a story on it...
Gary Webb, 49, former MN reporter, author

INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST WROTE CONTROVERSIAL SERIES

By Jessica Portner

Mercury News


Gary Webb, a former Mercury News investigative reporter, author and legislative staffer who ignited a firestorm with his controversial stories, died Friday in an apparent suicide in his suburban Sacramento home. He was 49.

The Sacramento County coroner's office said that when A Better Moving Company arrived at Mr. Webb's Carmichael home at about 8:20 a.m. Friday, a worker discovered a note posted to the front door which read: ``Please do not enter. Call 911 and ask for an ambulance.''

Mr. Webb, an award-winning journalist, was found dead of a gunshot wound to the head, Sacramento County Deputy Coroner Bill Guillot said Saturday.

Mr. Webb's friends and colleagues described him as a devoted father and a funny, dogged reporter who was passionate about investigative journalism.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/10399522.htm
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:24 PM
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7. Add another investigative journalist to the Bush Body Count.
.
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:39 PM
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34. How many have there been?
I know of Pearle but who else has been killed or allegedly committed suicide?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:57 PM
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75. Here's a short list...
Seems journalists who oppose the BFEE end up in a bad way. Gary Webb "shot himself in the head" Friday morning, according to the police. His own "colleagues" didn't even see fit to put his suspicious death on page A-1. The cowards.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/10399522.htm?1c


What Webb did to hurt the BFEE's feelings is he tied the CIA's Iran-Contra gang to the crack cocaine epidemic in America's major metropolitan areas. To the Bush gang, telling the truth made Webb an enemy.

http://www.parascope.com/mx/articles/garywebb/garyWebbSpeaks.htm


Here are a few others who actually had the guts to investigate the Bush Family Evil Empire:

Daniel “Danny” Casolaro — Researched BCCI and the Inslaw/PROMIS Affair, found that George HW Bush had ties going around the world and back through Iran-Contra, Iraq-gate, the October Surprise, Watergate, Vietnam, the Bay of Pigs and Dallas. A “suicide.”

http://www.cjr.org/archives.asp?url=/91/6/octopus.asp


Abbie Hoffman — Yippie of the 60s turned into an investigative reporter in the 80s, researched and wrote about “October Surprise” allegations involving George HW Bush, Bill Casey and Robert Gates doing a deal with the Ayatollah Khomeini to delay the release of the hostages in 1980. The pretty good overview appeared in Playboy in 1992. A “suicide.”

http://www.democracyunbound.com/playboy1088.html


Steve Kangas — Researcher and writer who started “Liberal Resurgent” web site dedicated to naming names like Richard Mellon Scaife and telling the truth about what was happening to America. Wrote the seminal “The Origins of the Overclass” which detailed the role of the CIA in preserving the privileged positions of the nation’s wealthiest individuals and corporations. A “suicide.”

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-overclass.html


Jim Hatifield — Researcher and writer who penned “Fortunate Son,” an unauthorized biography of George W Bush that included allegations of cocaine use, planted by Karl Rove, who knew that Hatfield, an ex-con would be discredited. The last thing Hatfield wrote “Why Would Osama Want to Kill His Ex-Business Partner?” that detailed bin Laden threatening to crash a plane loaded with explosives into the G-8 summit in Genoa Italy in July 2001. Bush slept offshore aboard a US warship and the meeting was guarded by SAMs. A “suicide.”

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Hatfield-R-091901/hatfield-r-091901.html


Mark Lombardi— Artist and researcher who developed “Global Networks” or “Social Network Diagrams” which illustrated and chronicled the relationships between many of our day’s shadiest characters, institutions and treasons. One of his works graphically charted Osama bin Laden, Sheik Salim bin Laden, James R Bath, Texas Gov George W Bush and HARKEN Energy. A “suicide.”

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=2...

There are many more examples of brave journalists who’ve investigated the Octopus and turned up “suicided.” As time permits, I'll add them to the GD thread here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2819427&mesg_id=2819427&page=

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ally_sc Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:58 AM
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87. Thanks for the list...nfm
nfm
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:08 PM
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110. You're welcome, ally_sc!
A hearty welcome to DU! The more who know what's going on, the better!



Besides, they can't kill all of us; although they do seem to be trying.

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 06:11 PM
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124. Ha ha. Great comment: Seems true enough! Thanks for that list! n/t
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:20 AM
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88. Very Informative Post - Thank you, Octafish!
Hi, Octafish -

You pulled together a great short list very quickly. Can you post a Top Ten articles on the Crimes of Bush & Co.?

Thanks for sharing your research!

- Mark
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:59 PM
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108. Here's a Bush Organized Crime Family starter pack...
Thanks, Mark. Here's a post from a few weeks back. There are a lot of responses and links galore:

Know your BFEE: A Crime Line of Treason

Some DUers don't believe there's a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy or even a Bush Family Evil Empire.

Hey, I'm a Democrat and respect other's opinions and views.

But I do believe in the VRWC and BFEE, perhaps more accurately termed the Bush Transnational Criminal Enterprise. Here's why:

Bush Crime Line

• Vietnam
• Bay of Pigs
• Chile
• Watergate
• October Surprise
• El Salvador
• Reagan Survives Hinckley and Bush
• NAZI Ethnics for Reagan-Bush
• Voodoo Economics
• INSLAW/Promis
• Haiti
• Iraq-gate / Banca Nazionale del Lavoro arms to Saddam
• BCCI International Money Laundering for Terrorists & Intelligence Community arming Dr AQ Khan
• Savings & Loan scandal in general and Silverado in particular
• Iran-contra Guns/Drugs/Martial Law
• Gulf War I Glaspie Gives Go-Ahead
• Selection 2000 Shreds US Constitution
• Tax Cuts for UltraRich
• Criminal Justice Department
• Suicidal Environmental Policy
• ENRON Energy Policy
• 9-11 Criminal Negligence, at best; Treason, most likely
• Illegal Iraq Invasion
• Paperless Selection 2004

It’s interesting in reviewing the above list, just how much ultra-right, conservative Republican leadership has really been. More than a listing of criminality, the list demonstrates there have been many treasonous activites against “We the People” through “business opportunities” in the finance, energy, and defense industries.

There is one FAMILY name that runs through all the history, the four decades since the JFK administration. Since the very hour of President Kennedy’s death, and through the list of sinister events and unrelenting criminality noted above — a record of infamy stretching back 41 years today — appears the name George Herbert Walker Bush, a tradition continued by his son, George Walker Bush, beard of the BFEE.

CONTINUED...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2748315



Gulag? What Gulag?
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:42 AM
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151. The BFEE Crime Family starter pack..............
LOL :D


Btw, for those reading this stuff for the first time it's only FREE only in the sense that those brave enough to read it and to understand :wtf: is really going on you will never be able to look at the US government with the same grandiose illusions
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:27 PM
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104. Incredible stuff. No wonder they killed Steve Kangas
<<snip>>

Although many people think that the CIA’s primary mission during the Cold War was to "deter communism," Noam Chomksy correctly points out that its real mission was "deterring democracy." From corrupting elections to overthrowing democratic governments, from assassinating elected leaders to installing murderous dictators, the CIA has virtually always replaced democracy with dictatorship. It didn’t help that the CIA was run by businessmen, whose hostility towards democracy is legendary. The reason they overthrew so many democracies is because the people usually voted for policies that multi-national corporations didn't like: land reform, strong labor unions, nationalization of their industries, and greater regulation protecting workers, consumers and the environment.

So the CIA’s greatest "successes" were usually more pro-corporate than anti-communist. Citing a communist threat, the CIA helped overthrow the democratically elected Mohammed Mussadegh government in Iran in 1953. But there was no communist threat — the Soviets stood back and watched the coup from afar. What really happened was that Mussadegh threatened to nationalize British and American oil companies in Iran. Consequently, the CIA and MI6 toppled Mussadegh and replaced him with a puppet government, headed by the Shah of Iran and his murderous secret police, SAVAK. The reason why the Ayatollah Khomeini and his revolutionaries took 52 Americans hostage in Tehran in 1979 was because the CIA had helped SAVAK torture and murder their people.
<<end>>

The biggest lie in America today is that the right stands for freedom.



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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:02 PM
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109. Don Q, Steve Kangas had them pegged.
Thanks to Dulles, Harriman and Bush, the CIA stands for "Capitalism's Invisible Army."

LIBERALISM RESURGENT:
A Response to the Right


© Copyright by Steve Kangas, editor.

This is a memorial mirror site of Steve Kangas' fine web page.
It is as it was when he met death, February 8, 1999.
Rest in peace Steve, your truth lives on.


http://home.att.net/~Resurgence/tenets.htm
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:41 PM
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122. California is the next neo-con target, not Iran. Think Webb had Ahnuld
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 05:48 PM by JohnOneillsMemory
in his sites? I do.

Ahnuld just announced possible 'special' elections to redistrict this state.

California is being acquired in the classic CIA way:

1) economic destablization (through Enron's energy scams)
2) topple a democratically-elected leader(Dem Gov. Gray Davis)
3) install a corporate-friendly strong-man (with a Nazi heritage)

The Gropenfuhrer met with Ken Lay back in May 2001 while the black-outs were shaking California up.

If I were Webb, I'd be working to expose Ahnuld.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:00 PM
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128. Sad to say that reads right, JohnOneillsMemory.
To twist the knife, Lou Ferigno's boyfriend married a Kennedy.

BTW: Brilliant analysis, on all counts. And your thoughts regarding Webb, IMO, are spot-on. The guy lived in Sack-ch-ra-ment-o.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:37 AM
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138. Look at how we acquired Hawaii
nothing has changed...
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pipes Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:02 PM
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120. How about other journalists committing suicide?
Tha was the short list, any from the Lewinski/Clinton years who all of a sudden "can't live with themselves...'?

Or folks in the regimes good graces. Once again they all seem to favor or in this case unfavor Bush and pals.

Why can't people wake up and smell the shit in Washington? It makes me soooo sick!:puke:
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:25 PM
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9. I see he was quite outspoken against Bush before the election
BBC articles show he was an ardent Kerry supporter. Might mean nothing or something... I wish I could dig more, but am off to the protest! news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3965163.stm
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:39 PM
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13. I think it's a message to other investigative reporters
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SleeplessinSoCal Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 07:20 PM
Response to Reply #9
68. Many ardent Kerry supporters are not doubt on a suicide watch
I could be. I undertand the mindset of Terrorists better now.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 03:06 AM
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85. Welcome to DU SleeplessinSoCal
:hi: now go to sleep
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:42 PM
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16. At least it says 'apparent suicide'
sure have been a lot more of these since bushco came to town.

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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:23 PM
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27. This story says "a gunshot wound" (singular)
Do you believe SJMN or the Bee?
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:24 PM
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29. neither
was that a trick question?
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:35 PM
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32. Just a rhetorical question.
The Bee's obituary is much better written than the SJMN story, imho.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:24 PM
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8. ???
:wtf:
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Thaddeus Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:30 PM
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10. Here's a link to a show he did with us
over two years ago:

http://www.will.uiuc.edu/am/mediamatters/

(scroll down to the May 26, 2002 show)

This is very sad news. There are so few investigative journalists of his caliber.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:13 AM
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149. Those unfamiliar with this man should hear his story in his own words
Check out the link above.
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Califooyah Operative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 09:03 PM
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165. good link, thank you. nt
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:33 PM
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11. caselaro-ed?
why is it that investigative journalists are all suicidal?
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #11
61. Yet they're such
highly motivated and passionate people.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:33 PM
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12. Dark Alliance: The CIA, the Contras, and the Crack Cocaine Explosion
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:41 PM
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14. Here's one of the reviews
How did this happen to Gary webb? A prize winning reporter,a middle of the road news reporter from a conservative stable backround suddenly becomes the pariah of the press? I read this book with great trepidition,seeing the JFK conspiracy folks running around ...well, i was surprised, shocked,horrified.Perhaps i shouldnt have been...Mr Webb ahs laid out, simply, forcibly a case so damning that most simply wont look.The case he sets forth is so damning infact, that if true, and I think it is, then we need to overhaul our entire system. The absurd "war on drugs'is shattered by Mr Webb in the first 100 pages. 3 administrations,and countless pols either ignored or knew what was happening. Oliver North comes off none too well, though he is an easy target, and not even close to one of the important folks here. This is a searing piece of journalism,and one wonders why My Webb has been consigned to the far left by the celebrated organs of media, THe NY TIMES, THE WASHINGTO POST and The LA TIMES?. When these 3 folks stand up to criticise at once, well, i smell soemthing...where is the uproar from the 'mainstream press' ?After all, I thought the war on drugs was a family values issue. One of the most disturbing books I have ever read.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:42 PM
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15. Side temple?
Wait a minute. "Wounds"??? Plural? He shot himself more than once????

Am I wrong in thinking the obituary lacks good information?
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haele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 07:03 PM
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67. Unless it's an in and out shot...
but if it doesn't do that, then we're looking at murder, in my opinion.

Haele
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #15
69. Maybe "wounds" if a shotgun was involved.
They scatter and all.... but up close?
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:46 PM
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19. He shot himself more than once
in the head??? Now that is some death wish not to mention kinda difficult.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:51 PM
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20. Ten bucks says he was murdered
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:32 PM
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30. Thousand bucks says you're right...
A moving company?
People who are moving are looking forward,
not for the end.
BFEE.
bhn
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:41 AM
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139. Oh no - is it the Israeli Movers again?
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:51 PM
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21. Does anybody know
if he was working on any new investigating piece?
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:54 PM
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22. It says the Movers found him? Why was he moving...to where?
n/t
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:57 PM
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23. Bush Doctrine of Pre-emption? I wonder what Gary Webb was working on.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:04 PM
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24. One more "coincidence" in a long chain of "coincidences."
Nothing to see here. Stop w/ the conspiracy theories and just watch the news-they are always right.

If the Liberal media sez its a suicide, then its a suicide, CASE CLOSED.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:09 PM
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25. Goddamn
those bloody bastards.

RIP, Gary Webb.
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Guarionex Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:14 PM
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26. suicide my ass...this was assassination...
Why would he kill himself? The story's too vague...and I've heard about other journalists "comitting suicide" in the past few days (that guy who was talking to Clinton Curtis before he released the affidavit on vote rigging software)...

My tolerance for burden of proof waits is about up...I think this guy was assassinated for his anti-Bushism.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:34 PM
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31. He was MOVING...
Not something suicidal people are up for.
You're right- he was killed.
BFEE.
BHN
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #26
64. Which other journalists have committed suicide in the
last few days?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:24 PM
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28. If the press doesn't start picking up the slack,
the lives of people like this man's will be mocked. He held a light for us to enable us to recognize what kind of people were running the show.

HOW DARE THE PRESS TO DROP THE BALL.

From a speech he gave in Eugene, Oregon at a Methodist Church:
Many years ago, there was a great series on PBS -- I don't know how many of you are old enough to remember this -- it was called Connections. And it was by a British historian named James Burke. If you don't remember it, it was a marvelous show, very influential on me. And he would take a seemingly inconsequential event in history, and follow it through the ages to see what it spawned as a result. The one show I remember the most clearly was the one he did on how the scarcity of firewood in thirteenth-century Europe led to the development of the steam engine. And you would think, "Well, these things aren't connected at all," and he would show very convincingly that they were.

In the first chapter of the book on which the series is based, Burke wrote that "History is not, as we are so often led to believe, a matter of great men and lonely geniuses pointing the way to the future from their ivory towers. At some point, every member of society is involved in that process by which innovation and change come about. The key to why things change is the key to everything."

What I've attempted to demonstrate in my book was how the collapse of a brutal, pro-American dictatorship in Latin America, combined with a decision by corrupt CIA agents to raise money for a resistance movement by any means necessary, led to he formation of the nation's first major crack market in South Central Los Angeles, which led to the arming and the empowerment of LA's street gangs, which led to the spread of crack to black neighborhoods across the country, and to the passage of racially discriminatory sentencing laws that are locking up thousands of young black men today behind bars for most of their lives.

But it's not so much a conspiracy as a chain reaction. And that's what my whole book is about, this chain reaction. So let me explain the links in this chain a little better.
(snip/....)
http://www.parascope.com/mx/articles/garywebb/garyWebbSpeaks.htm



When they kill, and I completely believe they did, people who are actually trying to do good in the world, and this man was, it's NOT the time to roll over and play dead, and let them win. I'll be praying for one individual man or woman to pick up the gauntlet.

Our current journalists may live to be old, prosperous, comfortable, and die peacefully in their sleep by taking the path of least resistance, but they will have dishonored their profession in looking the other way consistantly. They have forgotten there once was a purpose, an actual FIRE in journalism.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:36 PM
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33. Nobody Will Touch This Story
They don't want to be next.

Such an obvious not-suicide was clearly meant as a warning to others.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 05:41 PM
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59. Is Sy Hersh is a safe, undisclosed location. This is scary stuff.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:01 PM
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35. RIP Mr Webb. He was one hell of a journalist. As opposed to our modern
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 02:07 PM by Guy Whitey Corngood
day stenographers and media whores. I've been reading Dark Alliance for the last few weeks. I recommend it to all.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:02 PM
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36. I don't believe it. Not suicide. nt
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:26 PM
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37. Damn them. This will be happening even more to dot connecters.
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 02:33 PM by JohnOneillsMemory
Consider that many politicians and journalists are successfully terrorized.

They have learned not to point fingers while swimming with sharks because they may lose their arm for the effort.

Silencing the messenger works.

The 'Beltway Sniper' took out an FBI cyber-security specialist named Linda Franklin. She was most likely the reason for the murders with the extra psy-ops of terrorizing DC and the whole country.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ned=us&q=sniper+linda+franklin+fbi+cyber+security&btnmeta%3Dsearch%3Dsearch=Search+the+Web
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:42 PM
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74. Not if we don't let them.
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 09:43 PM by shance
We need to start exposing these murders for what they are.

We must not allow any more good, decent, gutsy people to die in vain.
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Mokito Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:53 AM
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84. Conspiracy theorist!!! Voila, I just completely discredited you.
I'm sorry and pissed that is that way, but you and I know damn well that'll be the one and only answer to your quest for truth from any so called mainstream media outlet.

Face it America, you have no journalism, only news.




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bin.dare Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:48 PM
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38. Into The Buzzsaw
"If we had met five years ago, you wouldn't have found a more staunch defender of the newspaper industry than me. The truth was that, in all those years, I hadn't written anything important enough to suppress."

R.I.P.

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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:13 PM
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41. "In seventeen years of doing this, nothing bad had happened to me."
In seventeen years of doing this, nothing bad had happened to me. I was never fired or threatened with dismissal if I kept looking under rocks. I didn't get any death threats that worried me. I was winning awards, getting raises, lecturing college classes, appearing on TV shows, and judging journalism contests. So how could I possibly agree with people like Noam Chomsky and Ben Bagdikian, who were claiming the system didn't work, that it was steered by powerful special interests and corporations, and existed to protect the power elite? Hell, the system worked just fine, as I could tell. It encouraged enterprise. It rewarded muckracking.

And then I wrote some stories that made me realise how sadly misplaced my bliss had been. The reason I'd enjoyed such smooth sailing for so long hadn't been, as I'd assumed, because I was careful and diligent and good at my job. It turned out to have nothing to do with it. The truth was that, in all those years, I hadn't written anything important enough to suppress.
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles4/Edwards_Watchdog1.htm
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:52 PM
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39. Another voice silenced!
:cry: Rest in Peace Mr. Webb. :cry:
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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:13 PM
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42. Amen merh! n/t
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:20 PM
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44. When you start thinking about it
you get very afraid of thinking about it.His book exposed some facts that were brushed over by the media hackys lacks so quickly you know silence was paid for.
To not be worried and very mad about this is very un American.
Kick this into the headlines !
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harrison Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:20 PM
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43.  This man was a hero. I believe he was a military brat, son of a
marine. Very sad. What are we becoming in this country?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:20 PM
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45. Looks like our "leaders" are on a streak of assassinations
In the UK they are talking about the phony suicide of Blair's WMD critic David Kelly:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1064864

In the Ukraine there is a similar story about an anti-Russian candidate being poisoned with dioxin:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1371999,00.html

And in Palestine, there is increasing evidence that Arafat's death was not due to natural causes as the MSM would have us believe:

http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_id=5603

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1100239530037
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:57 PM
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47. HOW MANY MORE BEFORE PEOPLE WAKE UP??
'suicides'
'accidental shootings'
'car accidents on deserted roads'
'cardiac arrest'
'small plane crashes'
'toxic poisonings'

and the list goes on
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:06 PM
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49. nt
:kick:
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:01 PM
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48. Didn't Mike Ruppert also work on that drug story?
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 07:54 PM
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71. Gary Webb spoke highly of Ruppert. Ruppert
Confronted the CIA at a hearing in LA some years ago. Ruppert is in danger, IMO.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:19 PM
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50. Rest in Peace Gary.
Blessed are the peacemakers and truthtellers.

How many more?

I'm so sorry to lose you, one more light, extinguished in the "1000 points of light" program instituted by GW1.
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KeireG Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:24 PM
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51. Someone please tell me...
What is this "drug investigation" business?
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:31 PM
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52. Cia/ crack epdeimic. of the 80's. Google it. Maxine Waters held a big
hearing in L.A. One of the central charactes involved was a drug dealer named Freeway Ricky something or other who was supposedly set up by the CIA to deal crack cocaine ( a new phenom at the time) and profits supposedly went to finance the Contras (if I remember correctly).
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:46 PM
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54. Excerpt explains it
"In 1996, Webb wrote a series of stories entitled Dark Alliances. The series reported how a US-backed terrorist army, the Nicaraguan Contras, had financed their activities by selling crack cocaine in the ghettos of Los Angeles to the city's biggest crack dealer. The series documented direct contact between drug traffickers bringing drugs into Los Angeles and two Nicaraguan CIA agents who were administering the Contras in Central America. Moreover, it revealed how elements of the US government knew about this drug ring's activities at the time and did little, if anything, to stop it. The evidence included sworn testimony from one of the drug traffickers - a government informant - that a CIA agent specifically instructed them to raise money for the Contras in California. "


As additional information subsequently came to light, Webb recognised that he had indeed been in error:

"The CIA's knowledge and involvement had been far greater than I'd ever imagined. The drug ring was even bigger than I had portrayed. The involvement between the CIA agents running the Contras and drug traffickers was closer than I had written." (p.307)

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles4/Edwards_Watchdog1.htm

If you have doubts about whether such stories get squelched, read "Into the Buzzsaw", a collection of essays by award-winning journalists whose careers got slaughtered for writing the wrong stuff.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 06:02 PM
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62. It was all part of Reagan's bs war on drugs
I use to do home visits in Miami's poorest neighborhoods during that time. In the early 80's pot was cheap and plentiful. They would bring it in on freighters and smaller boats would run out to pick up loads. Then Reagan went after the mother ships.

At the same time people started turning expensive cocaine into cheap crack and the world changed. Crack took the place of pot and everyone went crazy. We could no longer visit many areas without a guard. The effects on the people in the ghettos was devastating.

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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 06:29 PM
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65. I was a teenager in the 80's Living in Miami
Cocaine was everywhere. The Latino Boys would be selling for their Uncles or Dad or family members It was crazy. All the young males looked up to Tony Montana from scare face as a role model, It was a crazy time. Many of the boys I knew ended up in jail as adults.
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 05:24 PM
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55. They silenced another one.
Meanwhile the Blitzers, Isikoffs, Rahters, Dowds and Tweetys will sweep this under the rug!
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robertarctor Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 05:30 PM
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56. Use Occam's Razor, folks.
I worked with Gary at his last job, a free weekly in Sacramento. Here's his author archive (recent work) for that paper: http://www.newsreview.com/issues/sacto/authors/garywebb.asp. If you read his obit, you'll note that he recently had gone through a divorce, and that he was waiting for the moving company to pick up his stuff. That's because he was forced to sell and vacate the house where he had lived with his ex-wife and three kids. For some people, that would be a very traumatic experience.

Sometimes a suicide is just a tragedy, and it doesn't involve anyone connected to the deaths of Danny Casolaro, James Hatfield or anyone else on the Bush death list. Please let the man rest in peace.
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Conservativesux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 05:37 PM
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57. Use your brains....
this was a "hit". Suicidal people dont pack up and move.
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robertarctor Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 05:53 PM
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60. Did you even bother to read my post?
"Suicidal people don't pack up and move"?

How do you know? Perhaps somewhere in the process of moving out of the house that Gary shared with his wife and three children, it became intolerably painful for him. There's no way of knowing what was going through his head at the time preceding his death--not to you, not to me, not to anyone else here.

Yes, perhaps it was a "hit," as you put it. Perhaps a Hummerload of Arnold's pals pulled up at Gary's house and took him out. But the possibility of that scenario, or one similar to it, is probably quite slim. Sometimes a suicide is just a suicide.

Like I said, I worked with him; I left that job two weeks ago, after nearly five years there. As Gary only started working there in late summer, I didn't know him well; I'm not sure anyone on our editorial staff did, as he was a very private person who preferred to work from home. But my interactions with him were invariably pleasant and positive, and most everyone at the paper is completely broken up about what happened.

Of course, you're certainly welcome to entertain any theories that run contrary to what I just posted. But that doesn't make them fact-based. Please understand the difference.
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 06:34 PM
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66. Do you know what he was working on?
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 06:36 PM by Geek_Girl
I agree sometimes a suicide is a suicide. But given the current climate and the fact that he was a controversial investigative reporter, you can see why many find his suicide suspect.
Do you know if he was he working on any news stories at the time?
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robertarctor Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 07:28 PM
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70. Yes.
AFAIK, what he was working on were local and/or California-related stories. He'd left writing for a while and had a job in the California State Capitol, which ended when Gray Davis got replaced by the current incumbent last year. He got a job at the local weekly this year, and wrote two cover stories--one on the first-person-shooter computer game "America's Army," and the other on how Sacramento County is now using red-light cameras as a revenue stream, and the county Sheriff's connection to the Lockheed Martin subsidiary that sells and maintains the cameras. You can read those stories, and the shorter pieces he'd written, at the weblink I posted above.

It's my understanding that Webb had taken some time off to deal with moving out of the house where he'd lived with his wife and kids until their marriage came apart, and I'm not sure what he was working on at the time of his death.

I understand why people jump to conclusions whenever an investigative journalist is found dead, particularly if that journalist has written pieces critical of the regime holding power. These are strange times, and other actions of the current regime, and the profoundly anti-democratic attitudes toward the public that it presents, certainly serve to inflame those suspicions. But sometimes there are other forces in play, which are utterly mundane. Please consider them, and let this man rest in peace.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:26 PM
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81. i have
to agree with you .... and i don't 'trust' anyone-

but i know as a 'failed suicide' survivor, divorce, loosing your job, your kids, and seeing the way this world is headed, i can't blame him-

and i know he's in far more peace where he is than where we are- regardless of how he got there-

The letter on the door was a good example of the kind of man he was- one who wouldn't want his ex, or friends, or people un-trained to walk into find what they did.... a person who couldn't stop feeling......

boy can i relate- especially these days-
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:14 AM
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93. Add to that they didn't HAVE to "hit" him, he was already neutralized...
...and "discredited" at the national level. Why go after Webb when someone like Robert Parry is still on the beat?

Even so, I have little trouble blaming the BFFE: they'd wrecked his career after Dark Alliance, and not everyone can pick up the pieces and start over.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:20 PM
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103. Just to let us know you can't get away with what he did in SJMN
Gary Webb, RIP

They never let him out of their sight, I am sure, and knew what was going on in his private life.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:13 AM
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153. If you didn't know they are very very vindictive RAT EFFERS
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 11:51 AM by nolabels
with memories that never forget, you should study up on it. This ugly shadow also has multifaceted reasoning, and one should not also expect they were watching him all along. For all we know he could have been getting close to a breaking or finding out something very important. This is just another suspicious (so-called) sucicide that could never have made any sense.

INVESTIGATION OF THE VIOLENT CRIME EXEMPLAR

Any investigation into the world of violent crime, such as homicide, suicide, and sex offenses, carries with it some standard procedures of analysis and reconstruction which we'll discuss here in the context of fairly typical and uncomplicated (exemplar or unequivocal) crime scenes. There are a few similarities as well as differences with the crime of arson (sometimes treated a violent crime), but the homicide exemplar is so typical of the investigative process as a whole that it's often the only corpus delecti a student needs to know in learning how to investigate (Axelrod & Antinozzi 2003). Many of the skills involved in conducting a homicide investigation carry over into other crimes, not all, but many. Homicide is therefore considered an exemplar, or good example, to use in the teaching of criminal investigation.

A few caveats are in order before we begin. First of all, just because you find a body at the crime scene doesn't mean you should launch a homicide investigation. Homicide is only the sixth leading cause of death in America. The following table illustrates the odds for average Americans:

Cause of Death Odds of Occurrence
Homicide 1 in 1.3
1 in 3 Disease
1 in 5 Heart Attack
1 in 42 Cancer
1 in 81 Automobile Accident
1 in 84 Suicide

There are times when a preliminary walk-through will tell you that the death is by natural or accidental causes (the top four causes of death), but as a general rule, you should treat all apparent suicides as homicides at first. With suicides, you may or may not find a note left behind for loved ones, but if you do, you should treat it as a questioned document. A suicide can, of course, also be accidental or intentional. The most common accidental ones involve misuse of firearms and drugs. The most common intentional ones involve hanging and jumping (although sexual asphyxiation is usually classified as accidental). The special case of drowning is equally likely to be either accidental or intentional. The following table lists the most frequent order of occurrence for intentional suicides along with a rank order of the most damaging life stressors:

Intentional Suicides
1. Hanging
2. Jumping
3. Carbon monoxide
4. Poisons
5. Slashing wrists
6. Firearms
7. Drug overdose
8. Drowning

Most Serious Stressors
1. Death of spouse
2. Divorce
3. Marital difficulties
4. Trouble with the law
5. Death of friend or family
6. Serious illness or disease
7. Fired at work
8. Retirement

With homicides, a good rule to follow is make the arrest within 72 hours or the chances of ever making it plummet (Morn 2000). Another caveat is that it is not absolutely necessary to have a body to launch a homicide investigation. Missing persons situations are somewhat special, and you should refer to your department's policies on that, but in most cases when you suspect a homicide, it probably is a homicide, and when you suspect an abduction, it probably is an abduction. If you can't find the body, it's most likely buried or underwater somewhere, unless you're dealing with kidnapping, serial killing, or sexual cannibalism (O'Connor 2001). Remember that insects and animals will eat up about 60% of the corpse within a week, and unless they are weighted down or stuck on an underwater eddy obstruction, sunken bodies usually become "floaters" by the end of a week.
(snip)
http://faculty.ncwc.edu/toconnor/315/315lect10.htm

on edit: Them stats on cause of death are probably bogus (depending on where you live of course). But some of the reasoning on how to investigate seem sound and make sense
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:48 AM
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140. So what did he leave the kids with?
no income? Can't collect insurance for suicide...

Yeah, that sure is some caring father...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:40 PM
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106. You worked with him but know nothing about him, you admit.
So what's your theory? That investigative reporters are too delicate for the normal problems of life? That they're the types that just give up when the going gets rough? Is that your theory?

Or, put so much more reasonably, that personal failure is simply the straw that breaks the camel's back?

Over and over and over again?
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robertarctor Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:41 AM
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150. I'm sorry. I don't have a theory.
Granted, there is a possibility that somebody else whacked him. I'm not privy to the particulars of what is in the police report. But from what I can gather by talking with my former colleagues, the simplest explanation is most likely the best one, and that is that Webb killed himself because of overwhelming personal problems. I may be wrong. If you are so convinced that he was whacked by the Bush Family Evil Empire, please feel free to come to Sacramento and investigate the matter yourself, or pony up the money to pay for an independent investigation.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:55 AM
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101. People just happen to be on internet forums to answer for this "suicide?"
Just like hundreds of internet forum (not specifically this forum) members that have nothing to do but obstruct an otherwise educational discussion about events ongoing in American government* at all levels, in order to push the Republican lexicon upon other forum members and in order to alter their very perception of reality in order to dissuade them from complaining about and reacting to absolutely awful governance.

*This is an example of the subject matter that my comment applies to, and there are numerous other subjects that fall into the same category when they intersect with the American government, such as big business and international affairs.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:57 PM
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72. thank you for the information
I'm very sorry for those who knew and loved him, no matter what the cause of his death.

Yes, in the current climate, the immediate suspicion is that someone with his history could have been killed by the Bush machine.

It would make more sense if he had been killed during the era in which he was reporting the Frog Men cocaine imports, courtesy of Ollie North.

Instead, the powers that be were able to destroy his (and others credibility), while men like Ollie North and Otto Reich, and on and on make millions.

No doubt the inequity of such situations are stressful. But a divorce and the financial hardships that can entail are equally, if not more, stressful.

For whatever reason he's now gone, I'm grateful for the work that he did and I'm sorry he had such troubles.

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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:07 PM
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76. I am the first to suspect right wing hit squads, but your explanation...
is a pretty good indication the preliminary assessment may in fact be right.
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 05:37 PM
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58. BULLSHIT.............Suicide my ass!
No kills his/herself by shooting them self in the hand...what a load of crock.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 06:07 PM
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63. It was in the head not hand.
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GarySeven Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:58 PM
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73. Please, remember STEVE KANGAS
Courageous defender of liberalism ...
Challenger of Richard Scaife ...

MURDERED in Scaife's building by a RIGHT WING assassin (and then his death ruled a "suicide").

They are using real bullets people, and it's a real war.

http://www.psnw.com/~bashford/kang-ev0.html
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:34 PM
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78. Way to many untimely Deaths
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 10:37 PM by LibertyorDeath
They are Fascists out for Total Control & they Kill anyone that truly gets in their way.

Death of a patriot:
March 17, 2004

The subject line on yesterday’s email read: “Another mysterious accident solves a Bush problem. Athan Gibbs dead, Diebold lives.” The attached news story briefly described the untimely Friday, March 12th death of perhaps America’s most influential advocate of a verified voting paper trail in the era of touch screen computer voting. Gibbs, an accountant for more than 30 years and the inventor of the TruVote system, died when his vehicle collided with an 18-wheeled truck which rolled his Chevy Blazer several times and forced it over the highway retaining wall where it came to rest on its roof.

Gibbs’ TruVote machine is a marvel. After voters touch the screen, a paper ballot prints out under plexiglass and once the voter compares it to his actual vote and approves it, the ballot drops into a lockbox and is issued a numbered receipt. The voter’s receipt allows the track his particular vote to make sure that it was transferred from the polling place to the election tabulation center.

Gibbs’ death bears heightened scrutiny because of the way he lived his life after the 2000 Florida election debacle. I interviewed Athan Gibbs in January of this year. “I’ve been an accountant, an auditor, for more than thirty years. Electronic voting machines that don’t supply a paper trail go against every principle of accounting and auditing that’s being taught in American business schools,” he insisted.

more http://civilliberty.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2004/853
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republikkkon Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #78
79. woah.
that is fucked... especially that list Octafish posted... wow.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:20 PM
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80. Yeah well & truly fucked
Welcome to DU Octafish is one of the most informed posters here imo

America is in Deep Shit deeper than any previous time in its history
since the MSM is in lock step with these bastards.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:54 PM
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127. Athan Gibbs
Whether accident or murder, Athan Gibbs was a most important voice silenced:

Gibbs was in Columbus, Ohio proudly displaying his TruVote machine that offered a “VVPAT, that’s a voter verified paper audit trail” he noted.

Gibbs also suggested that I look into the “people behind the other machines.” He offered that “Diebold and ES&S are real interesting and all Republicans. If you’re an investigative reporter go ahead and investigate. You’ll find some interesting material.

http://civilliberty.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2004/853
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:26 PM
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82. We need to better protect folks like this. Maybe investigative journalists
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 11:31 PM by w4rma
should form an organization that keeps an eye on one another. That makes sure if one of their collegues is "suicided" then the rest can swoop in with information contrary to the story that the global corporatists will want believed. Or even if one of their collegues is feeling "suicidal" they can swoop in and help them get through things.

I think that it is very important to figure out HOW these "suicides" happen and HOW these small planes go down in balls of fire. What are the methods used?
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RhodaGrits Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:48 PM
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83. The CIA - Contra cocaine story was the one Kerry investigated too
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:23 AM
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86. People like Gary Webb don't commit suicide!! This is highly suspicious!
:scared:
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:50 AM
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90. Yes they do. Let's not do a Vince Foster here. Anyone can suffer from
depression and depression sometimes leads to suicide. It should be investigated, of course, but please let's not prejudge the outcome with uninformed notions about who will or will not commit suicide.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:45 AM
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98. I don't minimize Depression & Suicide -but anyone who knows anything about
Gary Webb knows that he was persistent, tough as nails and that he was a very stable person....I believe his family would have known and he wouldn't have done it in this manner...this doesn't smell right...I think there should be a thorough investigation...
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:45 AM
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99. FOR GOD'S SAKE! what are the odds of 4 Bush biographers committing suicide
In any other setting, aside from government, you would never accept this many coincidences.

All you wimpy moderates are going to get us killed someday.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:14 PM
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102. "All you wimpy moderates are going to get us killed someday."
Ain't it the truth.

Let's not jump to conclusions...don't be paranoid...this isn't fascism...they're not THAT evil...it's just coincidence....

How much will take for some people to wake the fuck up?

Well, let's not wait to find out. Let them enjoy their sleep. By the time they open their eyes, it'll probably be too late to make a difference.

Like Leonard Cohen says, "There's a war between the ones who say there is a war, and the ones who say there isn't."

Well, there is a war, and we're the only side taking casualties.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 02:31 PM
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112. I must have missed the part about Webb being a Bush biographer.
Got a link? And who are the other three? Since when does asking that people stick to the facts make one a "wimpy moderate"? Believe it or not, you can turn just about anybody into a serial killer based on "coincidences." Ever hear of the Clinton Chronicles? Just because it is liberals doing it this time doesn't make those of us who want to rely on facts and not emotions "wimpy moderates."

A neighbor of mine upset a tractor on himself and got killed. Cleverly I arranged to be at home with my brothers when it happened so I had an alibi. Someone took a pot shot at our state senator but I was ok because I was in school at the time so no one suspected me. A classmate of mine tried to commit suicide by drinking Draino. No one suspected me even though it was well known that I was familiar with the caustic properties of Draino. Another classmate died when the car he was riding in hit a bridge abutment. I was away at college so no one suspected my involvement even though there was no explanation as to why the car went off the road on a dry straight stretch of pavement in the daytime. A schoolbus I was riding on when I was 16 mysteriously lost its brakes going down a mountain. It was a miracle that no one was killed but fortunately no one ever asked my why I was sitting in the back of the bus when some kid I had had a fight with was sitting near the front of the bus. And it was well known that I did not get along with the bus driver. My brother's car mysteriously drove off a mountain pass in Colorado. He survived but again, no one suspected me even though the road was dry and straight. My mother's cousin blew his brains out with a 12 gauge shotgun. Another kid I knew blew off the back of his brother's head with a 12 gauge shotgun. I owned a 12 gauge but no one suspected me in either case. My sister-in-law committed suicide. No one suspected my involvement because this time I managed to be on the opposite coast. It's a good thing I am not President because then someone might notice all of these "coincidences" and figure out that I have been killing people or trying to kill people right and left all of my life.
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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #112
118. y'know
You attempt to demean the thought processes of those who are willing to think about possible explanations for apparently interconnected events. For being willing to look beyond the placebo "news" that is supposed to lull us all to sleep as our democracy and freedom are stolen from us by thugs and criminals.

Guess I'm sensitive because I'm a college-educated researcher and professor sick and tired of being painted a "conspiracy theorist" because my analyses of current events cause me to suspect that there IS a conspiracy. Not the first conspiracy in the history of politics, I can assure you!

You try to show how crazy folks are by giving an example. In fact, your "example" does the exact opposite of what people here have done: you try to construct wild explanations in order to connect obviously disconnected events.

Connections from Insignificant You to friend x, friend y, acquaintance z - or from Clinton to death1, death2, death3 is a far different matter from INVESTIGATION of Shrubco (CIA = GHWB) to suicideX, suicideY, suicideZ and counting!

I don't have an opinion about Webb's death, suicide or murder...I don't think I know enough to decide. But neither do you. So, if people have a theory they wish to explore, what's it to you?
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:20 AM
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131. Theories aren't fruitfully explored by making charges supported by zero
evidence other than your political leanings - and you did not address my point that it is not four Bush biographers but one - and Webb was not that one and there is no logical reason to connect Bush to him. I gave my admittedly absurd convoluted example to demonstrate the nonsense of the so called "body counts" whether we are talking Clinton or Bush. And no - I don't find the Bush conspiracy mongers to be any more logical than the watermelon- shooting Clinton conspiracy mongers. I think Bush is a corrupt demagogue who thinks God is on his side and will say just about anything to get power and keep it but that doesn't mean he has journalists killed and for anyone to insinuate that I would say the burden of proof is on them. If you are a researcher you should know the meaning of the saying, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." It is one I like to apply to the claims of the fundy creationists. If a competent medical examiner says it is a suicide - it is a suicide as far as I am concerned - until that time when someone comes forward with the extraordinary proof other wise. And then I will say bravo for them because proving an extraordinary claim is a mighty feat indeed. But until that time comes what's it to me is that I don't see how using the tactics of Richard Scaife and the Arkansas Project does anything except hurt our side in this political fight. Words have meaning and truth matters. That's what's it to me. Look at the Watergate investigative journalism of Woodward and Bernstein. If they hadn't taken the care to carefully document all of their claims about Nixon and his cronies their sources would have dried up and the story would have imploded.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:22 AM
Response to Reply #131
145. laughable
first you dont seem to have a good grasp of what is and isnt evidence. Then you point to Woodward and Bernstein who used an unnamed source to establish their "case" such as it was, and dont even consider the lessons really taught by the subsequent history of Bob "Navy Intelligence Bush Whore" Woodward and Carl Bernsteins CIA in the media work. Its no wonder you think GW is anything more than a figurehead/frontman, you dont seem to have a very good grasp of history here.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #90
123. Would it seem logical that a person suffering from depression
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 06:12 PM by Judi Lynn
who finds it difficult holding things together, take it upon himself to attempt the enormous risk involved in persuing his CIA/Contra investigation in the first place?

You'd almost think a person capable in transcending the personal so well, so capably, indicated a higher level of psychological integration.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:34 AM
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132. Actually many highly creative people and competent people have suffered
from depression. Abraham Lincoln for one, Stonewall Jackson, Vincent van Gogh, William Styron, Art Buchwald. I have a number of friends who suffer from depression. They are all competent and productive people. My sister-in-law had everything going for her - well educated, nice family, loving husband, well-kept house, would organize their family vacations down to the last detail and pull them off without a hitch - but she got depressed sometimes and killed herself during one of the depressions. Some psychologists have even speculated that depression is often associated with high levels of creativity - particularly manic depression.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:40 AM
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89. A Bush Mafia hit
No question.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 09:51 AM
Response to Reply #89
91. Why now? He broke the story about cocaine/CIA in the late 80s?
That's my problem with the "Bush Hit" theory. Why take action like killing someone 10-15 years after the story got out?

Even highly successful people sometimes get chemical imbalances and major depressive episodes.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:00 AM
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92. setting an example, sending a message. and it was '96.
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 10:04 AM by Minstrel Boy
Saying You fuck with us, you're fucked forever. You'll never be safe, and we'll get you on our own time.

If he'd been killed when the story had just broken, the CIA would look to have blood on its hands, wouldn't it?

But the story isn't "10-15 years" old. His "Dark Alliance" series appeared in 1996, and the book only in 1999.

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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:22 AM
Response to Reply #92
146. The San Jose Mercury ran articles on the story in the late 80s-the 1996
series was further vindication for a story from an earlier time. During the Iran/Contra hearings, these allegations were being made in the alternative media and nowhere else. The Reagan administration vehemently denied the allegations of contra drug trafficking and excoriated the San Jose Mercury over their articles. I read about it in articles published locally in the Metro Times, but that were originally written in the San Jose Mercury. And that was in the 80s.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:16 AM
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154. We're talking about Webb, and his series was from '96. n/t
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:01 AM
Response to Reply #91
95. Just like Admiral Boorda, and the British Scientist....
Odd how these people who cross the BuschCo band die, aint it?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 09:05 AM
Response to Reply #91
147. Anyone knows what he was working on nowadays?
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 09:06 AM by robbedvoter
Plenty of fresh secrets around to dig :shrug:
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:47 AM
Response to Reply #91
152. I've thought about the 'when' part of the revenge a lot when I've
read about all the suicides...

I think doing it long after the event is quite clever (so they would think). If it's too late to stop whatever it is that shouldn't be revealed, the revenge is still probably as 'sweet' after the fact. The timing of a divorce would be perfect.

We won't know for a long time until a lot of people are questioned and the science is deemed to be credible or not, but it's a certainty with me that revenge can be compatible with patience for these people.

'These people' are becoming more cocky. If you can get away with the theft of a nation's vote and a phoney war with thousands of deaths and permanent casualities, including decades of resulting cancers and diseases of the immune system to come, plus a phoney 'pearl harbor'....why not wait a while for a writer?

How badly would they want to take revenge?

How stupid and gullible do they think they we are?


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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:22 AM
Response to Reply #152
155. But then it could be they found out that he was working on something new
But I agree. Once the story was published in San Jose, and later in book form, "when" they exact their revenge isn't really important. Yes, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he died of two self inflicted gunshot wounds to the BACK OF THE HEAD.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:44 AM
Response to Reply #152
157. As stupid as it may or may not sound, it might be only now........
that they (whatever group that might have done it) felt that it was the opportune time to pull it off.

Mostly it seems to me young people going through a lot of hormones or old people with nothing left to live for try to off them selfs. What would would really make me wonder is all these interesting people connected to these dark or lurid facts all seem to be so successful at their suicides. This in where the attempt to actual carrying out rate is way the other way. Yet in spite of that fact why is there not no documentation on these type of characters in key places in history being shown to have attempted suicice anywhere.

Just some more co-winky-dinkys I guess :crazy:
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:22 AM
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94. This was not a Suicide this was murder!!! This is a coverup
People who try to expose the drug dealing cartel are being exterminated!!!
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:28 AM
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96. Yeah Right - what are the odds of 4 Bush biographers committing suicide??
Anyone who does not see through this needs a bood to the head
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 02:41 PM
Response to Reply #96
113. So will somebody please name the 4 "Bush Biographers" who have
offed themselves instead of repeating the argument like a dittohead freeper? And what was the title of the Bush biography that Webb wrote? I think I missed that one.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #113
115. I think these are the investigators people have in mind:
1. Danny Casolaro ("The Octopus": PROMIS, Cabazon res / chemical weapons)
2. James Hatfield (Fortunate Son)
3. Gary Webb (Dark Alliance)
4. ?

Wildcard:
Mark Lombardi (artist, amazing "narrative structures" - http://www.wburg.com/0202/arts/lombardi.html)
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 03:39 PM
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116. Okay, I see ONE Bush biographer (Hatfield) who committed suicide.
And I see no evidence that Hatfield's death was homicide. So, barring any more evidence can we agree the "4 Bush Biographers committing suicide" is bogus?
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:48 PM
Response to Reply #116
119. Strictly speaking, the only "biographer" in the list is Hatfield
The other researchers were led to the Bush family by their investigations.

It should be noted that other likely candidates for "suiciding" are still alive, including Craig Unger (House of Bush, House of Saud), Maureen Dowd (Bushworld), and Pete Brewton (The Mafia, the CIA, and George Bush).
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:30 AM
Response to Reply #116
137. Steve Kangas?
flew all the way to Pittsburg to shoot himself in the bathroom one floor below Scaife...
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:47 PM
Response to Reply #137
163. He's a Bush Biographer? Really?
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SittingBull Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 06:28 AM
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169. Spaghetti
Hello, I'm new on DU, and till now only reading sometimes the most interesting topics...

You only ask for Biographers, but thats don't fit the truth.

You can compare it with eating spaghettis. Every spaghetti you'll pull out the mess you find something ugly. The Bush-Junta has a long history of all kinds of criminal active, therefore is it a really junta with facist look...

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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:42 AM
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97. ttt
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:49 AM
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100. Self inflicted?
With the way this guy got the truth out, I find it suspicious.

Maybe he was investigating something really big and someone picked him off and set it up to look that way. :think:
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eek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #100
107. It has been going on in Russia for some time.
try googling "russian journalists murdered" and you will get an eyeful.


Murder of Paul Klebnikovhtt
Aired July 15, 2004 - 23:00:00 ET

JONATHAN MANN, CNN HOST: Stop the press. Russian journalists are being murdered, Russian media reigned in. Can there really be democracy when just printing the facts proves deadly.?
Hello and welcome.

Lists are standards fare in newspapers and magazines around the world; lists ranking the most beautiful celebrities, the best sports teams, the biggest companies. The familiar, even forgettable stuff.

But in Russia right now, people are wondering if a list like that got the man who published it killed. Paul Klebnikov was the 41-year-old editor of the Russian edition of "Forbes" magazine, gunned down a week ago Friday.
(snip)
Klebnikov himself now joins a different kind of list. He's at least the 15th journalist in Russia to be murdered since the year 2000. No one has been punished for any of the killings.

Read the transcript - it is scary:
edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0407/15/i_ins.01.html -



Posted on Sat, Jul. 10, 2004
Murder in Russia is latest in string of attacks on journalists
BY MARK MCDONALD

Knight Ridder Newspapers

MOSCOW - (KRT) - The drive-by murder of American journalist Paul Klebnikov in Moscow was the latest in a series of attacks on reporters and editors working in Russia.

"Russia is consisttly one of the world's most dangerous places to be a journalist," said Ann Cooper, executive director of the Committee to Protect Journalists, noting that 14 journalists in Russia have been killed here in the last four years.

None of the killers has been prosecuted, and Cooper said "this shameful record of impunity" and "the Kremlin's indifference to press freedom" have created a murderous and dangerous climate for journalists.

The group Reporters Without Borders also has described Russia as ""one of the world's deadliest countries for journalists."
(more)
www.kansascity.com/mld/ kansascity/news/world/9126110.htm




Valery Ivanov, the first murdered editor of the Togliatti Observer, wrote about the sacrifice some Russian journalists make.

"In this struggle, journalists are dying. Using every possibilities to compel independent professionals to write according to their wishes, corrupted power uses assassination," he said.

"This is the tragic price that Russian society is paying for freedom of speech and a free press."

Russia's Number One citizen, President Vladimir Putin, has a different perspective:

"Russia has never had a free media, so I don't know what I am supposed to be impeding," he said on 26 September 2003.

(More)
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3860299.stm



More interesting stuff:
International News Safety Institute
http://www.newssafety.com/

Reporters Without Borders
http://www.rsf.org


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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 02:20 PM
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111. MONSTERS!! My, how that fucking Bush Body Count is growing!
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 02:20 PM by ElementaryPenguin
Sounds like Porter Goss was likely involved with this!! What a country! And we wonder why journalists don't investigate or expose the truth in this country?

:puke:
:puke:
:puke:
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 03:06 PM
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114. Wounds, plural, hmm...I think he was "suicided"
May he rest in peace.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:22 PM
Response to Reply #114
130. Why can't the second wound be an exit wound?
I think calling this a murder is jumping the gun until we know more. Likewise, murder should not be ruled out.

The error lies in making a definitive decision before the facts are known.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 03:43 PM
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117. Bush Crime Family strikes again
Don't cross the Family.

RIP Mr. Webb and bless you for the work you did...
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 10:51 PM
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126. Shall we add this one to the Bush body count list?
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:02 PM
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129. Of course, they weren't self-inflicted!
Only some pathetically naive idiot could believe for minuite that this was anything other than a political killing of a courageous journalist. These terrible things happen all the the time. That's the kind of world we really live in, and Gary Webb knew it all along. He knew what kind of risks he was taking by telling the truth.
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hangloose Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:17 AM
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133. Wait a minute It say "Wounds ", like in more than one, he must have
really wanted to take himself out or was a rather poor shot. Can you imagine what fortitude it takes to shoot yourself twice or three times in the head before you succeed. I mean isn't this a little strange, is anyone familiar with a similar case where someone shoots himself more then once in the head?
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:10 AM
Response to Reply #133
143. Yes actually and the guy survived. It was a strange case. At first he
didn't admit he had tried to kill himself but finally told the emergency room staff what had happened. It was bizarre. Happened many years ago so I don't remember all the specifics but it's the kind of thing one remembers.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:55 AM
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134. I don't believe it
How low has this country has sunk in my esteem?

I don't believe that he shot himself, I think someone shot him and set it up to look like a suicide...

Sure as hell wouldn't be the first time...


:nuke: bush
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Debbie13 Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:11 AM
Response to Reply #134
148. A faked suicide is the usual way our politians wipe out
anyone who gets in their way.

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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:28 AM
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136. What an amazing murderer this guy was
he shoots himself in the head more than once?

ALmost like that crazy texas woman who claimed she dated Bush - she was able to shoot herself in the BACK of the head with a SHOTGUN!

Now those are long arms...
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major_rager Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:46 AM
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141. VETERAN DEA AGENTS BACKED GARY WEBB
http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/whosarat/vpost?id=12

Esquire magazine, September 1998]

Contributor's profile:

Two weeks after Gary Webb's "Dark Alliance" series appeared in the San Jose Mercury News in August 1996, contributing editor Charles Bowden found himself in a bar, having a few drinks with some narcs (his idea of a good night). "For some reason, Webb's piece came up, and I asked the guys, 'So, what do you think? Is what Webb wrote about the CIA true?'" recalls Bowden, the author of fifteen books, including Blood Orchid and Juarez: The Laboratory of Our Future. "And they all turned to me and said, "Of course it is.' That's when I knew that somebody
would have to do this story, and I figured it might as well be me." "The Pariah," Bowden's story on Webb -- a man he describes as "real smart, real straight, lives on a cul-de-sac, family man, all that crap" -- begins on page 150.


Editor's letter :

....The world Charles Bowden leads us into in his story, "The Pariah" (page 150), is, on the other hand, a place few would willingly visit. Reporter Gary Webb chose to enter the alternate universe where the CIA sponsors armies and sometimes finds itself allied with drug dealers who sell their wares in the United States. Webb wrote a newspaper series that documented how the Nicaraguan contras of the 1980s were in part financed by just such an arrangement -- and he was then professionally destroyed for it. Bowden, in the course of reporting this story over the last six months, found considerable evidence that parallels and supports Webb's articles -- including revelations from one of the DEA's most decorated agents, who speaks for the first time about the CIA's complicity in the drug trade. It was not, however, the agency's ties to drug traffickers that Bowden found most disturbing. It was that a man can lose his livelihood, his calling, his reputation, for telling the truth....

--David Granger


------------------------------------------

THE PARIAH

Two years ago, Gary Webb wrote a series of articles that said some bad things about the CIA and drug traffickers. The CIA denied the charges, and every major newspaper in the country took the agency's word for it. Gary Webb was ruined. Which is a shame, because he was right.

By Brad Wilson Charles Bowden | Sep 01 '98


HE TELLS ME I'VE GOT TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT WHEN THE BIG DOG GETS OFF THE PORCH, and I'm getting confused here. He is talking to me from a fishing camp up near the Canadian border, and as he tries to tell me about the Big Dog, I can only imagine a wall of green and deep blue lakes with northern pike. But he is very patient with me. Mike Holm did his hard stints in the Middle East, the Miami station, and Los Angeles, all for the United States Drug Enforcement Agency, and he is determined that I face the reality he knows. So he starts again. He repeats, "When the Big Dog gets off the porch, watch out." And by the Big Dog, he means the full might of the United States government. At that moment, he continues, you play by


Big Boy rules, and that means, he explains, that there are no rules but to complete the mission. We've gotten into all this schooling because I asked him about reports that he received when he was stationed in Miami that Southern Air Transport, a CIA-contracted airline, was landing planeloads of cocaine at Homestead Air Force Base nearby. Back in the eighties, Holm's informants kept telling him about these flights, and then he was told by his superiors to "stand down because of national security." And so he did. He is an honorable man who believes in his government, and he didn't ask why the flights were taking place; he simply obeyed. Because he has seen the Big Dog get off the porch, and he has tasted Big Boy rules. Besides, he tells me, these things are done right, and if you look into the matter, you'll find contract employees or guys associated with the CIA, but you won't find a CIA case officer on a loading dock tossing kilos of coke around. Any more than Mike Holm ever saw a plane loaded top to bottom with kilos of coke. He didn't have to. He believed his informants. And he believed in the skill and power of the CIA. And he believed in the sheer might and will of the Big Dog when he finally decides to get off the porch.

As his words hang in the air, I remember a convict who says he once worked with the United States government and who also tasted Big Boy rules. This man has not gone fishing. This convict insisted that I hold the map up to the thick prison glass as he jabbed his finger into the mountains. There, he said, that's the place, and his eyes gleamed as his words accelerated. There, in the mountains, they have a colony of two thousand Colombians out of Medellin, guarded by the Mexican army. I craned my neck to see where his finger was rubbing against the map, and made an x with my pen. That's when the guard burst into the convict's small cubicle and ordered him to sit down.

The convict is a man of little credibility in the greater world. He is a Mexican national, highly intelligent and exact in his speech. He is a man electric with the memory of his days working as a DEA informant in Mexico, huddling in his little apartment with his clandestine radio. He said I must check his DEA file; he gave the names of his case officers; he noted that he delivered to them the exact locations of thirteen airfields operated jointly by the drug cartels and the CIA. The man's eyes bugged out as his excitement shredded the tedium of doing time and he returned to his former life of secret transmissions, cutouts, drinks with pilots ferrying dope, bullshitting his way through army checkpoints.

He said, "I'll be out in six months or one year, depending on the hearing. We can go. I'll take you up there." I have always steered clear of the secret world, because it is very hard to penetrate, and because if you discover anything about it, you are not believed. And because I remember what happened to one reporter who wrote about that world, about the Big Dog getting off the porch, about the Big Boy rules. So I thought about the convict's information and did nothing with it.

But this reporter who went ahead and wrote while I stopped, I kept thinking about him. When I mention him, and what happened to him, to Mike Holm, he says, "Ah, he must have drawn blood." Holm is very impressed with the CIA, and he wants me to slow down, think, and understand something: "The CIA's mission is to break laws and be ruthless. And they are dangerous."

I had been thinking about looking into the claim that during the civil war in Nicaragua in the eighties, the CIA helped move dope to the United States to buy guns for the contras, who were mounting an insurrection against the leftist Sandinistas. So I called up Hector Berrellez, a guy who worked under Mike Holm in Los Angeles, a guy known within the DEA as its Eliot Ness, and he said, "Look, the CIA is the best in the world. You're not going to beat them; you're never going to get a smoking gun. The best you're going to get is a little story from me."

What Berrellez meant by a smoking gun is this: proof that the United States government has, through the Central Intelligence Agency and its ties to criminals, facilitated the international traffic in narcotics. That's the trail the reporter was on when his career in newspapers went to rack and ruin. So I decided to look him up.

His name is Gary Webb.

GARY WEBB LOVES THE STACKS OF THE STATE LIBRARY ACROSS from the capitol in Sacramento, the old classical building framed with aromatic camphor trees. He enters the lobby and becomes part of a circling mural called War Through the Ages, an after-flash of World War I painted by Frank Van Sloun in 1929. The panels start with the ax and club, then wade through gore to doughboys marching off to the War to End All Wars. THIS HOUSE OF PEACE, the inscription on the west wall admonishes, SHALL STAND WHILE MEN FEAR NOT TO DIE IN ITS DEFENSE.

He was here in the summer of 1995 because of a call from a woman named Coral Marie Talavera Baca. She told him her drug-dealer boyfriend was in jail and one of the witnesses against him was "a guy who used to work with the CIA selling drugs. Tons of it." Webb was brought up short: In eighteen years of reporting, every person who'd ever called him about the CIA had turned out to be a flake. Webb started to back away on the phone, and the woman sensed it and exploded: "How dare you treat me like an idiot!" She said she had lots of documents and invited him to a court date that month. And so he went.

Coral's boyfriend turned out to be a big-time trafficker. She brought Webb a pile of DEA and FBI reports about, and federal grand-jury testimony by, a guy named Oscar Danilo Blandon. Webb was intrigued by government files that told of Nicaraguans selling dope in California and giving dope money to the contras. During a break in the hearing, he headed for the restroom and ran into the U.S. attorney, David Hall. Webb told him he was a reporter for the San Jose Mercury News, and Hall asked why he was at a piddling hearing. "Actually, I've been reading," Webb answered, "and I was curious to know what you made of Blandon's testimony about selling drugs for the
contras in L.A. Did you believe him?" "Well, yeah," Hall answered, "but I don't know how you could absolutely confirm it. I mean, I don't know what to tell you. The CIA won't tell me anything."

Webb followed a trail of crumbs: some San Francisco newspaper clips, some court records in San Diego, where this strange figure, Blandon, had been indicted for selling coke in 1992 and, according to the documents, had been at it for years and sold tons. He and his wife had been held without bail because the federal prosecutor, L.J. O'Neale, said his minimum mandatory punishment would be life plus a $4 million fine. Blandon's defense attorney had argued that his client was being smeared because he'd been active in helping the contras in the early eighties.
The file told Webb that Blandon wound up doing about two years, and that he was now out. The file recorded that at O'Neale's request, the government had twice quietly cut Blandon's sentence and that he was now working as a paid undercover informant for the DEA.

After about six weeks of this kind of foraging, Webb went to the state library. For six days in September, he sat at a microfiche with rolls of dimes and read an eleven-hundred-page report from 1989 compiled by a subcommittee of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, a subcommittee chaired by Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts that dealt with the contras and cocaine.
http://www.thememoryhole.org/kerry/index.htm
Buried in the federal document was evidence of direct links between drug dealers and the contras; evidence, dated four years before the American invasion of Panama, that Manuel Noriega was in the dope business; drug dealers saying under oath that they gave money to the contras (and passing polygraphs); pilots talking of flying guns down and dope back and landing with their cargoes at Homestead Air Force Base in Florida.

Suddenly, Coral's phone call didn't seem so crazy. Webb called up Jack Blum, the Washington, D.C., lawyer who led the Kerry inquiry and said, "Maybe I'm crazy, but this seems like a huge story to me." "Well, it's nice to hear someone finally say that, even if it is ten years later," Blum allowed, and then he proceeded to tell Webb almost exactly what he told me recently when I made a similar innocent phone call to him. "What happened was, our credibility was questioned, and we were personally trashed. The administration and some people in Congress tried to make us look like crazies, and to some degree it worked. I remember having conversations with reporters in which they would say, 'Well, the administration says this is all wrong.' And I'd say, 'Look, why don't you cover the fucking hearing instead of coming to me with what the administration says?' And they'd say, 'Well, the witness is a drug dealer. Why should I do that?' And I used to say this regularly: 'Look, the minute I find a Lutheran minister or a priest who was on the scene when they delivered six hundred kilos of cocaine at some air base in contra land, I'll put him on the stand, but until then, you take what you can get.' The big papers stayed as far away from this issue as they could. It was like they didn't want to know."

Webb was entering contra land, and when you enter that country, you run into the CIA, since the contras were functionally a CIA army. (The agency hired them, picked their leaders, plotted their strategy, and sometimes, because of contra incompetence, executed raids for them.) This is hardly odd, since the agency was created in 1947 for precisely such toils and has over the decades sponsored armies around the world, whether to land at the Bay of Pigs or kick the Soviets out of Afghanistan. After a year of research, in August 1996, Webb published a three-day, fifteen-thousand-word series in the Mercury News called "Dark Alliance." It is a story almost impossible to recapitulate in detail but simple in outline: Drug dealers working with the contras brought tons of cocaine into California in the 1980s and sold a lot of it to one dealer, a legend called Freeway Ricky Ross, who had connections with the L.A. street gangs and through this happenstance helped launch the national love of crack. That's it, a thesis that mixes the realpolitik of the-ends-justify-the-means with dollops of shit-happens.

The series set off a firestorm in black communities, where many suspected they had been deliberately targeted with the dope as an act of genocide (there is no evidence of that), and provoked repudiations of the story by The Washington Post, The New York Times, and the Los Angeles Times. The knockdowns of Webb's story questioned the importance of Nicaraguan dealers like Blandon, the significance of Ricky Ross, how much money, if any, reached the contras, and how crucial any of this was to the crack explosion in the eighties, and brushed aside
any evidence of CIA involvement. But while raising questions about Webb's work, none of these papers or any other paper in the country undertook a serious investigation of Webb's evidence. A Los Angeles Times staff member who was present at a meeting called to plan the Times's response has told me that one motive for the paper's harsh appraisal was simply pride: The Times wasn't going to let an out-of-town paper win a Pulitzer in its backyard.

Later, when it was all over, Webb spelled out exactly what he meant and exactly what he thought of the CIA's skills: The series "focused on the relationship between the contras and the crack king. It mentioned the CIA's role in passing, noting that some of the money had gone to a CIA-run army and that there were federal law-enforcement reports suggesting that the CIA knew about it. I never believed, and never wrote, that there was a grand CIA conspiracy behind the crack plague. Indeed, the more I learned about the agency, the more certain of that I became. The CIA couldn't even mine a harbor without getting its trench coat stuck in its fly."

After a while, the San Jose Mercury News series disappeared except on a few byways of the Internet, Gary Webb was ruined, and things went back to normal. Things like Oliver North's diary entry linking dope and guns for the contras, like Carlos Lehder, a big Colombian drug dealer, testifying as a prosecution witness in federal court during the Noriega trial about the Medellin cartel's $10 million donation to the contras, like the entire history of unseemly connections between the international drug world and the CIA -- all this went away, as it has time and time again in the past. A kind of orthodoxy settled over the American press that assumed that Webb's work had been thoroughly refuted. He became the Discredited Gary Webb.

And so in June 1997, Webb wound up going to a motel room he hated. The Mercury News's editors were supposed to fix him up with an apartment, but they never figured he'd show up for his dead-end transfer from investigative reporter to pretty much a nothing. So they made no arrangements, just shunted him to the paper's Cupertino bureau on the south end of Silicon Valley, his family 150 miles away in Sacramento. After a few days of the motel, he found himself in a tiny apartment. He was in his early forties, and his life and his life's work were over. He endlessly watched a tape of Caddyshack and tried to forget about missing his wife, Sue, his three kids, his dog, his work. He was an ordinary guy, by his lights, with the suburban home, an aquarium in the study, two games a week in an amateur hockey league. Now, during the day, he visited the bureau, and the guys there treated him okay, because they were all in the same boat, people who had pissed off their newspaper and been shipped to its internal Siberia, where they were paid to retool the press releases of the computer and software companies. Webb was fighting the paper through arbitration with the Newspaper Guild, and so while his case dragged on, he refused to let his byline run. But he did his assignments. After all, they were paying him a solid mid-five-figure wage; he was their star investigative reporter, the guy they had brought in from The Cleveland Plain Dealer in 1987 to do, in their words, "kick-ass journalism." Within two years, he'd helped them bring home a Pulitzer with a team of Mercury News reporters who jumped on the San Francisco earthquake. Then he blew the lid off civil forfeiture in
California -- law enforcement's practice of seizing property from alleged crooks and then forgetting to ever convict, try, or even charge them. That series got the law changed. He was hot. He was good. He kicked ass.

Now Caddyshack flickered against his eyes hour after hour. His thirteen-year-old son asked, "Why don't you get another job?" And Gary Webb told him, "That's what they think I'll do. But they're wrong. I'm gonna fight."
But fight how? He was one fucking disgrace. Oliver North described his work as "absolute garbage." Webb was stretched thin. The week the series ran, he and his wife closed on a new house and moved in. Payments. So each morning, he went to the Cupertino bureau, and there were assignments from the city desk. Seems a police horse died, and he was supposed to nail down this equine death. So he did. He investigated the hell out of it and wrote it up, and, by God, the thing was good. Went on page one, of course, without his name on it. The horse died from a medical problem, constipation. The horse was full of shit.

HECTOR BERRELLEZ STUMBLED ONTO GARY WEBB'S STORY YEARS before Gary Webb knew a thing about it. His journey into that world happened this way: Hector was not fond of cops. He remembered them slapping him around when he was a kid. He was a barrio boy from South Tucson, a square mile of poverty embedded in the booming Sun Belt city. His father was a Mexican immigrant. After being drafted into the Army in the late sixties, Berrellez couldn't find a job in the copper mines, so he hooked up as a temporary with the small South Tucson police force to finance his way through college. And it was then that Hector Berrellez accidentally discovered his jones: He loved working the streets with a badge. The state police force hired him, and Hector, still green, managed to do a one-kilo heroin deal in the early seventies, a major score for the time. The DEA snapped him up, and suddenly the kid who had wanted to flee the barrio and become a lawyer was a federal narc. He loved the life. In the DEA, there are the administrators, who usually have little street experience, the suits. And then there are the street guys like Hector, and they call themselves something else. Gunslingers. His hobbies were jogging, weight lifting, guitar playing. And firearms. A Glock? Never. "Only girls carry Glocks," he snaps. "They're a sissy gun. Plastic. You can't hit anyone over the head with a Glock."

In September 1986, Sergeant Tom Gordon of the Los Angeles sheriff's narcotics strike force pieced together intelligence about a big-time drug ring in town run by Danilo Blandon. A month later, on October 23, Gordon went before a judge with a twenty-page detailed statement documenting that "monies gained from the sales of cocaine are transported to Florida and laundered....The monies are filtered to the contra rebels to buy arms in the war in Nicaragua." He got a search warrant for the organization's stash houses. On Friday, October 24, there was a briefing of more than a hundred law-enforcement guys from the sheriff's office, the DEA, the FBI. That was the same day that President Ronald Reagan, after months of hassle, signed a $100 million aid bill that reactivated a licit cash flow to the beleaguered contras. And on Monday, October 27, at daybreak, the strike force simultaneously hit fourteen L.A.-area stash houses connected with Blandon.

That's where just another day in the life of Hector Berrellez got weird. Generally, at that early hour, good dopers are out cold; the work tends toward long nights and sleeping. As Berrellez remembers, "We were expecting to come up with a lot of coke." Instead, they got coffee and sometimes doughnuts. The house he hit had the lights on, and everyone, two men and a woman, was up. The guy who answered the door said, "Good morning; we've been expecting you. Come on in." The house was tidy, the beds were already made, and the damn coffee was on. The
three residents were polite, even congenial. "It was obvious," says Berrellez, "that they were told." The place was clean; all fourteen houses were clean. The only thing Berrellez and the other guys found in the house was a professional scale.

But there was a safe, and Berrellez got one of the residents to open it reluctantly. Inside, he found records of kilos matched with amounts of money, an obvious dope ledger, a photograph of a guy in flight dress in front of what looked to be a military jet, and photographs of some guys in combat. Hector asked the guy who the hell the people in the photographs were, and the guy said, "Oh, they are freedom fighters." What the hell is this? Berrellez wondered. He left and went to a couple of the other houses that had been hit, and Jesus, they were clean, the coffee was on, sometimes there were doughnuts for the cops, and the same kind of documents showed up. But no dope, not a damn thing.

For a holy warrior, October 27, 1986, was a bad day. At the debriefing after the raid, Berrellez remembers one of the cops saying that the houses had been tipped to the raid by "elements of the CIA." And he thought, What? "I was shocked," he says now. "I was in a state of belief." He was supposed to believe that his own government was helping dopers? No way. "I didn't want to believe," he says And so he didn't. He was that rock-solid first-generation citizen, and he believed in America. He remembers having this ongoing argument with his dad about whether there was corruption in the U.S. like the old man had tasted in Mexico. His father would ask, Do you really think things are so clean here? And Hector would have none of it; damn right they're clean here. And he was clean, and he was in a good outfit (a position he is still passionate about -- his absolute love for the troops he served with in the DEA), and he was in a holy war against a tide of poison.

In 1987, he was transferred to Mazatlan in Sinaloa, Mexico, to run the DEA station. Sinaloa was the drug center for Mexico; in the history of the Mexican drug cartels, all but one leader has been Sinaloan born and bred. He took the wife, got a beach house in the coastal city, and ran with the job. Two months into the assignment, narcotrafficantes chased his wife and two-year-old daughter from the beach back to the house, and they had to be evacuated to the States.

In October 1988, Hector and some Mexican federal police hit a small hamlet that housed a ton of coke and twenty tons of marijuana. The firefight lasted three hours, with thousands of rounds exchanged. When three federales were mowed down on the field of fire, Hector managed to pull them to safety with another agent. He commandeered a cab to take the wounded to a hospital, then returned to the shoot-out. For this combat, Hector and two other agents at the scene were brought to the White House and given a medal by Attorney General Edwin Meese. He was on a roll that would eventually earn him twelve consecutive superior-performance awards.


Hector Berrellez, twenty-four years in the DEA, known as the agency's Eliot Ness. As he read about Gary Webb, he thought, This shit is true.


In Mexico, Hector was running two hundred to three hundred informants, and he was bringing in a torrent of information on the drug world and its links to the Mexican government. But something else happened down there in Sinaloa that stuck in his mind. His army of informants was constantly reporting strange fortified bases scattered around Mexico, but they were not Mexican military bases, and, his informants told him, the planes were shipping drugs. Camps in Durango, Sinaloa, Baja, Veracruz, all over Mexico. Hector wrote up these camps and the information he was getting on big drug shipments. And each month, he would go to Mexico City to meet with his DEA superiors and American-embassy staff, and he started mentioning these reports. He was told, Stay away from those bases; they're our training camps, special operations. He thought, What the hell is this? I'm here to enforce the drug laws, and I'm being told to do nothing.

THE EMPTY ROOM SAGS WITH FATIGUE AS THE SPORTS TELEVISIONS quietly float in the corner. California's ban on smoking has emptied the watering holes. The hotel squats by a four-lane highway amid bland suburbs that blanket Sacramento's eastern flank against the Sierra Nevada. Everything is normal here; this is the visual bedrock of Ronald Reagan's America.

Gary Webb orders Maker's Mark on the rocks. He is a man of average height, with brown hair, a trim mustache, an easy smile, and laconic, laid-back speech, the basic language of Middle America. He moves easily, a kind of amble through life. His father was a marine, and his childhood meant moving a lot before finally coming to ground in Indiana, Kentucky, and Ohio. He's married to his high school sweetheart; they have three kids and live on a tree-lined cul-de-sac with a pool in back, a television in the family room, his Toyota with 150,000 miles in the drive, Sue's minivan, and on the cement the chalk outline of a hopscotch game. He looks white-collar, maybe sells insurance.

All he has ever wanted to be is a reporter. He started out as a kid, writing up sports results for a weekly at a nickel an inch. The Gary Webb who suddenly loomed up nationally with this bad talk about the CIA and drugs was a long time coming, and he came from the dull center of the country, and he came from an essay entitled, "What America Means to Me," for which he was runner-up in the fifth-grade essay contest, and he came from the smell of ink, the crackle of a little weekly where he nailed cold the week's tumult in the Little League.

Webb is not a drinker, probably because his marine father was, but now in the empty hotel bar, he is drinking. He is not used to talking about himself, because he is a reporter, and a reporter is not the story, but now he is talking about himself. When Gary Webb talks, he sometimes leans back, but often as not, he leans forward, and when he is really into what he is saying, he grabs his left wrist with his right hand as if he were taking his own pulse, and then his voice gets even flatter, and the words are very evenly spaced, and he never goes too fast, hardly any hint of
rat-a-tat-tat -- he is always measured and unexcited. But when he grabs that wrist, you can tell now that the words really matter. Because he believes. In facts. In publishing facts. In the fact that publishing facts makes a difference in how people look at things. Believes, without reason or question, believes absolutely. As for coincidence, it doesn't fit in with his mission. He also has no tolerance for conspiracy theories. By God, if he finds a conspiracy, it is not a theory, it is a fucking conspiracy, because it is grounded in facts.

When he was twenty-three, he was kind of drifting, living in the basement of Sue's house with her parents. He was writing rock 'n' roll stuff for a weekly, still grinding away at college and about three units shy of a degree. His father walked out on the marriage, leaving his mother, a housewife, and his younger brother without a check. So Webb quit college to support them. A teacher in his journalism department told him that the strange guy who ran the Post in Lexington, Kentucky, set aside one day a week for walk-ins. Webb walked in and said, "I need a job."
The editor said, "Go do two pieces and bring them back in a week."

One was on the barmaids and strippers of Newport, Kentucky, the sin town across the river from Cincinnati. The editor tossed it aside and said, "Thrice-told tale." The other was on a guy who carved gravestones; that one the editor kind of liked. He said, "Bring me two more." Webb was shaken, went home and sat in the backyard, and then he thought, Fuck, I can do this. This goes on for weeks. A kid calls the paper about the dog he's found run over in the street. He's taken it to the Humane Society; they want to put it to sleep, and the kid is very upset. Webb is sent out to see if he can do anything fit for a newspaper. He talks to the vet, who says it is hopeless, that the dog will never walk again, whether he operates or not. When Webb reports back to the editor, he says, "Get that guy on the phone," and after a few blunt words from the editor, by God, the vet is going to operate. And it works. The damn dog is leaping in the air. Finally, the dog goes home to the kid who found him, a kid in a wheelchair who seemed to identify with an injured mutt and was horrified at the idea that a cripple should be done away with. Story and photograph on the front page. Webb is hired. Years later, the old editor would tell him, "If that dog hadn't walked, you'd have never been hired."

There is a guy in the newsroom who is kind of burned out, a city editor. He watches the new hire for a few weeks. He tells him he will teach him the ropes, how to ferret out facts, how to find out damn near anything, how to be an investigative reporter. On one condition. He says Webb has to swear never to become a fucking editor. Webb agrees. His first series was seventeen parts on organized crime in the coal industry. Then he moved up to a good job on The Cleveland Plain Dealer and was in heaven: Ohio was the mother lode of corruption in government. He got an offer from the Mercury News in 1987. After a brief bidding war, he moved the family west, great place to raise kids, and besides, during his father's wanderings as a marine, Webb happened to be born in California. Everything was fine. He was in the Sacramento bureau and so hardly ever in the newsroom, much less around editors. In a big story for the paper, he took on one of the area's major employers. After the first day of the story, the company bought a full-page ad refuting it. After the next installment, the company bought a two-page ad. Webb looked around and noticed that nothing happened to him. The paper backed him up.

GARY WEBB'S "DARK ALLIANCE" BROKE AN OLD STORY. THE HISTORY of the CIA's relationship with international drug dealers has been documented and published, yet it is almost completely unknown to most citizens and reporters. Webb himself had only a dim notion of this record. And so he reacted with horror when the implications of his research first began to become clear to him: that while much of the federal government fought narcotics as a plague, the CIA, in pursuing its foreign-policy goals, sometimes facilitated the work of drug traffickers. "Dark Alliance" is surrounded by a public record that bristles with similar instances of CIA connections with drug people:

-- Alan Fiers, who headed the CIA Central American Task Force, testified during the Iran-contra hearings in August 1987, "With respect to the resistance forces...it is not a couple of people. It is a lot of people."

-- In 1983, fifty people, many of them Nicaraguans, were caught unloading a big coke shipment in San Francisco. A couple of them claimed involvement with the CIA, and after a meeting between CIA officials and the U.S. attorney handling the case, $36,000 found in a bedside table was returned because it "belonged to the contras." This spring, when the CIA published its censored report on involvement of the agency with drug traffickers in the contra war (a report that exists solely because a firestorm erupted in Congress after Webb's series), this incident was explained thusly: "Based upon the information available to them at the time, CIA personnel reached the erroneous conclusion that one of the two individuals...was a former CIA asset." Logically, an admission that CIA "assets" can sometimes be drug dealers.

-- In 1986, Wanda Palacio parted company with the Medellin cartel and started talking to Senator John Kerry's subcommittee, which was looking into the byways of the contra war and dope. Palacio said she'd witnessed two flights of coke out of Barranquilla, Colombia, on planes belonging to the CIA-contracted Southern Air Transport. She also had the dates and had seen the pilot. She also said Jorge Ochoa, another drug boss, said the flights were part of a "drugs for guns" deal. On September 26, 1986, Kerry took her eleven-page statement to William Weld, who was then the assistant attorney general in charge of the criminal division of the Justice Department. Weld allowed that he was not surprised to find claims of "bum agents, former and current CIA agents" dabbling in dope deals with the Colombian cartels. On October 3, Weld's office rejected Palacio's statement and offer to be a witness because of what it saw as contradictions in her testimony. On October 5, 1986, the Sandinistas shot a CIA plane out of the sky and captured one of Oliver North's patriots, one Eugene Hasenfus. Palacio was sitting in Kerry's office when a photograph of Hasenfus's dead pilot flashed across the television screen. She whooped that the pilot was the same guy she'd seen in Colombia loading coke on the Southern Air Transport flight in early October 1985. An Associated Press reporter, Robert Parry, investigated the crash and obtained the pilot's logs, which showed that on October 2, 4, and 6, 1985, the pilot had taken a Southern Air Transport plane to Barranquilla, Colombia. Palacio took a polygraph on the matter and passed.

-- Through much of the contra war, SETCO Air, an airline run by Juan Ramon Matta Ballesteros out of Honduras, was the principal airline used to transport supplies and personnel for the contras. Hector Berrellez later sent Ballesteros to Marion Federal Prison in Illinois to serve a couple of life sentences for dope peddling.

ABOUT THE SAME TIME GARY WEBB WAS MAKING HIS BONES AT The Cleveland Plain Dealer and winning part of a Pulitzer at the Mercury News, Hector Berrellez was becoming a legend. After two years of living at ground zero in Sinaloa, he was brought home to Los Angeles in 1989 to take over the most significant investigation in DEA history, that of the murder of DEA agent Enrique "Kiki" Camarena. Camarena had been bagged in broad daylight from in front of the American consulate in Guadalajara in February 1986. His tortured body was found a month later. The investigation had stalled, so the DEA tossed it in Hector's lap. He ran with the new power, the raft of agents under his command, the huge budget for buying informants in Mexico. The case was a core matter for the DEA: The murder of Camarena was the event that gave the ragtag agency its martyr. The investigation was called Operation Leyenda, "Operation Legend."

During Operation Leyenda, a major drug guy in Sinaloa called Cochi Loco, "the Crazy Pig," put a contract on Hector's head. In the drug world, there are so many possible reasons for murder that a simple one is seldom clear. Whatever the immediate cause, in the early nineties a hit team was sent north to kill Hector.

One day in 1991, in the underground garage of the building in Los Angeles where the DEA and a bunch of federal agencies rent office space, someone walked up to a guy sitting in a car and clipped him in the head with a .22. The man died instantly and fell forward into the steering wheel, and the sound of a car horn wailed through the garage. Hector remembers that they found him with the motor running, and neatly placed on the floorboard of the car was the gun, in a Mexican-tooled holster, and the two latex surgical gloves that had been worn by the hit man. Someone wanted a clear message delivered.

The dead man was a guy from the General Services Administration who happened to work in the same building as the DEA. He had been in some kind of a hurry and had pulled into a DEA parking space. The guy was a ringer for Hector's partner. Three days after the hit, Hector picked up the phone in his office and heard the voice of Chichon Rico Urrea, a significant drug figure who was doing a stint in a prison in Guadalajara. Chichon told Hector, "You see what happened to your guy in the garage? That's going to happen to more of your guys."

Hector told the guy to go fuck himself, said he could kill all the fucking GSA guys he wanted. But Hector was questioning his faith. The faith was the war on drugs. The faith was that he was a righteous soldier in this war. The faith was that he was risking his life for the forces of light against the forces of darkness. And he was Eliot Ness, goddammit; he was the most decorated guy anyone could remember in the DEA, the man running its key investigation, the guy who had killed people, the guy bloodied in the world of Mexican corruption. All of that Hector could handle -- none of that could ever touch the faith. But other things could. Things he saw and learned in Mexico. And things he saw in the United States. He began to doubt that there was a real commitment to win this war on drugs. He saw his government winking at too many narcotics connections. He took Kiki Camarena's murder personally, because as agents they were mirror images -- gung-ho, committed drugbusters. And impediments to his investigation pissed Hector off. So in 1992, four years before Gary Webb sprang "Dark Alliance" on the world, Hector Berrellez sat down in his federal office in Los Angeles and picked up the phone and recommended action to the DEA. Things had come to his attention, and he thought, Somebody's gotta investigate this crap. In fact, he hoped to be that investigator.

Hector Berrellez wanted a criminal investigation of the Central Intelligence Agency. His $3 million snitch budget had brought in an unseemly harvest, report after report from informants that in the eighties CIA-leased aircraft were flying cocaine into places like the air-force base in Homestead, Florida, and the airfield north of Tucson long believed to be a CIA base. And that these planes were flying guns south. One of his witnesses in the Camarena case told him about flying in a U.S. military plane loaded with drugs from Guadalajara to Homestead. Other informants told him that major drug figures, including Rafael Caro Quintero, the man finally imprisoned for the Camarena murder, were getting guns delivered through CIA connections. Everywhere he turned, he ran into dope guys who had CIA connections, and to a narc this didn't look right. "I can't believe," he told his superiors, "that the CIA is handling all this shit and doesn't know what these pilots are doing." His superiors asked if he had hard evidence of actual CIA case officers moving dope, and he said no, just lots of people they employed. All intelligence services use the fabled �cutouts� to separate themselves from their grubby work.

The DEA in Washington asked for a memo, so Hector fired off a summary of his telephone request. Agents were assigned, and Hector shipped every snippet of new information to this team. Nothing came of the investigation. The DEA team came out and debriefed him and some of his agents. And then, silence.

Hector's Camarena work had burrowed deep, very deep, inside the Mexican government and found endless rot. With the vote on NAFTA in the air in the fall of 1993, his investigation started to get pressure, then his budget was cut. By 1994, after Justice Department officials had been in Mexico City, he was told, "Don't report that crap anymore." It was clear to Hector that the Mexican government wanted this Camarena investigation reined in. In early 1995, he learned of his future in a curious way. One of Hector's informants in Mexico City called another one of his informants in Los Angeles and said, Hector's getting transferred to Washington. The guy in Los Angeles said, No, no Hector's still here. Two months later, in April 1995, Berrellez was transferred to Washington, D.C. Over the years, Hector had become used to a certain amount of duplicity in the DEA. Some of his fellow agents, he had come to believe, were actually members of the CIA. The DEA had been penetrated.

At headquarters, Hector sat in an office with nothing to do. "There ain't no fucking drug war," he says now. "I was even called un-American. Nobody cares about this shit." He started going a little crazy. Each day, he checked into a blank schedule. So he caught a lot of double features.

In September 1996, he retired. He had had enough. The most decorated soldier in the war on drugs kind of faded out at the movies.

IN THE NEWS BUSINESS, IF YOU HANG AROUND LONG enough, you get a chance to find out who you are. Gary Webb was determined not to find out he was something ugly.

"I became convinced," he remembers, "that we're going to look back on the whole war on drugs fifty years from now like we look back on the McCarthy era and say, How did we ever let this stuff get so out of hand? How come nobody ever stood up and said, This is bullshit? I thought I had an obligation because I had the power at that point to tell people, Don't believe what you're being told about this war on drugs, because it is a lie. Very few people were in the position I was in, where I was able to write shit and get it in the newspapers. It was a very rare privilege. The editors at the Mercury gave me a lot of freedom because I produced. Then I got into this thing."

In December 1995, Webb wrote out his project memo, and suddenly, "I realized what we were saying here. I'm sitting at home, and this e-mail comes from a friend at the Los Angeles Times. And I had told him vaguely about this interesting story I was working on. I told him that he had no idea what his fucking government is capable of "And I was depressed because this was so horrible. It was like some guy told me that he had gone through the looking glass and was in this nether world that 99 percent of the American public would never believe existed. That's where I felt I was. When I sat down and wrote the project memo and said, Here's what we're going to say, and we're going to be accusing the government of bringing drugs into the country, essentially, and we've spent billions of dollars and locked up Americans for selling shit that the government helps to come into the country -- is just...If you believe in democracy and you believe in justice, it's fucking awful."

For six weeks after his series came out, Webb waited in a kind of honeymoon. His e-mail was exploding, he recalls, "from ordinary people who said, 'This has restored my faith in newspapers.' It was from college students, housewives that heard me on the radio; it was really remarkable to think that journalism could have this kind of effect on people, that people were out marching in the streets because of something that had been hidden from us all these years. The thing that surprised me was that there was no response from the press, from the government. It was total silence."

Finally, in early October, The Washington Post ran a story by Robert Suro and Walter Pincus headlined, THE CIA AND CRACK: EVIDENCE IS LACKING OF ALLEGED PLOT. The story focused in part on the fact that Webb had given a defense attorney questions to ask Oscar Danilo Blandon about his CIA connections. It also quoted experts who denied that the crack epidemic originated in Los Angeles, disputed that Freeway Rick Ross and Blandon were significant national players in the cocaine trade of the eighties (pegging Blandon's coke business at five tons over the decade, whereas Webb had evidence that it was more like two to five tons per year). And, the article continued, there was no evidence that the black community had been deliberately targeted (the "plot" referred to in the headline and a claim never made by Webb), that the CIA knew about Blandon's drug deals (also a claim never made by Webb, who in the series merely connected Blandon to CIA agents), or that Blandon had ever kicked in more than $60,000 to the contra cause (the Post based this number on unnamed law-enforcement officials;
Webb based his estimate of millions of dollars to the contras from dope sales on grand-jury testimony and court documents). Perhaps the best summary of the Post's retort to Webb came from the paper's own ombudsman, Geneva Overholser, some weeks later: "The Post...showed more passion for sniffing out the flaws in San Jose's answer than for sniffing out a better answer themselves. They were stronger on how much less money was contributed to the contras by the Mercury News's villains that their series claimed, how much less cocaine was introduced into L.A., than on how significant it is that any of these assertions are true."

In late October, the Los Angeles Times and The New York Times weighed in on consecutive days. The Los Angeles Times had two years before described Freeway Rick Ross vividly: "If there was an eye to the storm, if there was a criminal mastermind behind crack's decade-long reign, if there was one outlaw capitalist most responsible for flooding Los Angeles's streets with mass-marketed cocaine, his name was Freeway Rick....Ross did more than anyone else to democratize it, boosting volume, slashing prices, and spreading disease on a scale never
before conceived....While most other dealers toiled at the bottom rungs of the market, his coast-to-coast conglomerate was selling more than five hundred thousand rocks a day, a staggering turnover that put the drug within reach of anyone with a few dollars." In the 1996 response to Webb's series, the Los Angeles Times described Ross as one of many "interchangeable characters" and stated, "How the crack epidemic reached that extreme, on some level, had nothing to do with Ross." Both stories were written by the same reporter, Jesse Katz, and the 1996 story failed to mention his earlier characterization. The long New York Times piece the following day quoted unnamed government officials, CIA personnel, drug agents, and contras, and noted that "officials said the CIA had no record of Mr. Blandon before he appeared as a central figure in the series in the Mercury News."

A common chord rang through the responses of all three papers: It never really happened, and if it did happen, it was on a small scale, and anyway it was old news, because both the Kerry report and a few wire stories in the eighties had touched on the contra-cocaine connection. What is missing from the press responses, despite their length, is a sense that anyone spent as much energy investigating Webb's case as attempting to refute it. The "Dark Alliance" series was passionate, not clinical. The headlines were tabloid, not restrained. But whatever sins were committed in the presentation of the series, they cannot honestly be used to dismiss its content. It is puzzling that The New York Times felt it could discredit the story by quoting anonymous intelligence officials (a tack hardly followed in publishing the Pentagon Papers). In contrast, what is striking in Webb's series is the copius citation of documents. (In the Mercury News's Web-site version-cgi.sjmercury.com/drugs/postscriptfeatures.htm -- are the hyperlinked facsimiles of documents that tug one into the dark world of drugs and agents.) But when Jerry Ceppos, the executive editor of the Mercury News, wrote a letter in response to the Post's knockdown, the paper refused to print it because a defense of Webb's work would have resulted in spreading more "misinformation."

Despite Ceppos's initial defense of the series, the Mercury News seemed to choke on these attacks, and Webb could sense a sea change, But he kept on working, building a a bigger base of facts, following its implications deeper into the government. When the Mercury News forced him to choose between a $600,000 movie offer and book deals and staying on the story, Webb picked the story. He kept discovering people who had flown suitcases full of money to Miami from dope sales for the contras. He documented Blandon's contra dope sales from '82 through '86. Gary Webb was on a tear; he was going to advance the story. Almost none of this was published by the Mercury News; the paper grudgingly ran (and buried) one last story on New Year's Eve 1996.

The paper had printed the story of the decade, the one with Pulitzer prize written all over it, and now was unmistakably backing off it. Webb entered a kind of Orwellian world where no one said anything, but there was this thing in the air. The Mercury News assigned one of its own reporters to review the series, using the stories of the L.A. Times, The New York Times, and The Washington Post as the benchmark for what was fact.

Webb wouldn't admit it to himself, but he had become a dead man walking.

WHEN HECTOR BERRELLEZ SPENT HIS YEAR GOING TO MOVIES IN Washington, he knew he was finished in the DEA. One day in October 1996, a month after he retired, Hector Berrellez picked up a newspaper and read this big story about a guy named Gary Webb. Hector had lived in shadows, and talking to reporters had not been his style. "As I read, I thought, This shit is true," he says now. He hadn't a doubt about what Webb was saying. He saw the reporter as doomed. Webb hit a sensitive area, and for it he would be attacked and disbelieved.
Hector knew all about the Big Dog and the Big Boy rules.

Hector's body aches from the weight of secrets. When we meet, he is in a white sport shirt, slacks, a blue blazer with brass buttons, and a shoulder-holstered 9mm with fifteen rounds in the clip and two more clips strapped under his right arm. He may be a little over-armed for his Los Angeles private-investigation agency (the Mayo Group, which handles the woes of figures in the entertainment industry -- that pesky stalker, that missing money -- for a fat fee up front and two hundred dollars an hour), but not for his history. For the rest of his life, Hector Berrellez will be sitting in nice hotels like this one with a cup of coffee in his hand, a 9mm under his jacket, and very quick eyes.

He saw a lot of things and remembers almost all of them. He wrote volumes of reports. In 1997, he was interviewed by Justice Department officials about those unseemly drug ledgers and contra materials he saw during the raid on the fourteen Blandon stash houses back in 1986. His interviewers wanted particularly to know whether anyone besides Hector had seen them. They then told Hector that they couldn't find the seized material anymore.

Before he retired, Hector was summoned to Washington to brief Attorney General Janet Reno on Mexican corruption. He talked to her at length about how the very officials she was dealing with in Mexico had direct links to drug cartels. He remembers that she asked very few questions. Now he sits in the nice lounge of the nice hotel, and he believes the CIA is in the dope business; he believes the agency ran camps in Mexico for the contras, with big planes flying in and out full of dope. He now knows in his bones what the hell he really saw on October 27, 1986, when he hit the door of that house in the Los Angeles area and was greeted with politeness and fresh coffee.

But he doesn't carry a smoking gun around. The photos, the ledgers, all the stuff the cops found that morning as they hit fourteen stash houses where all the occupants seemed to be expecting company, all that material went to Washington and seems to have vanished. All those reports he wrote for years while in Mexico and then later running the Camarena case, those detailed reports of how he kept stumbling into dope deals done by CIA assets, never produced any results or even a substantive response.

Hector Berrellez is a kind of freak. He is decorated; he is an official hero with a smiling Ed Meese standing next to him in an official White House photograph. He pulled twenty-four years and retired with honors. He is, at least for the moment, neither discredited nor smeared. Probably because until this moment, he's kept silent.

And Hector Berrellez thinks that if the blacks and the browns and the poor whites who are zombies on dope ever get a drift of what he found out, well, there is going to be blood in the streets, he figures -- there is going to be hell to pay. He tells me a story that kind of sums up the place he finally landed in, the place that Gary Webb finally landed in. The place where you wonder if you are kind of nuts, since no one else seems to think anything is wrong. An agent he knows was deep in therapy, kind of cracking up from the undercover life. And the agent's shrink decided the guy was delusional, was living in some nutcase world of weird fantasies. So the doctor talked to Hector about his patient, about whether all the bullshit this guy was claiming was true, about dead men and women and children, strange crap like that. And he made a list of his patient's delusions, and he ticked them off to Hector. And Hector listened to them one by one and said, "Oh, that one, that's true. This one, yeah, that happened also." It went on like that. And finally, Hector could tell the shrink wondered just who was nuts -- Hector, his patient, or himself.

ON SUNDAY, MAY 11, 1997, GARY WEBB WAS hanging wallpaper in his kitchen when the San Jose Mercury News published a column by executive editor Jerry Ceppos that was widely read as a repudiation of Webb's series. It was an odd composition that retracted nothing but apologized for everything. Ceppos wrote, "Although the members of the drug ring met with contra leaders paid by the CIA and Webb believes the relationship was a tight one, I feel we did not have proof that top CIA officials knew of the relationship." Fair enough, except that Webb never wrote that top CIA officials knew of the contra-cocaine connection. The national press wrote front-page stories saying that the San Jose Mercury News was backing off its notorious series about crack. The world had been restored to its proper order. Webb fell silent. He had to deal with his own nature. He is not good at being polite. "I'm just fucking stubborn," he says, "and that's all there was to it, because I knew this was a good story, and I knew it wasn't over yet, and I really had no idea of what else to do. What else was I going to do?"

What he did was have the Newspaper Guild represent him in arbitration with the Mercury News over the decision to ship him to the wasteland of Cupertino. "I'm going to go through arbitration, and I'm going to win the arbitration, and I'm going to go to work," he says. "I was just going to fight it out. This was what I did, this was me, I was a reporter. This was a calling; it was not something you do eight to five. People were not exactly
beating down my door, saying, Well, okay, come work for us. I was...unreliable." So he went to Cupertino, and he wrote stories about constipated horses and refused to let his byline be printed. And then he went to his
apartment and missed his wife and family and watched Caddyshack endlessly. He was a creature living a ghostly life. The only thing he didn't figure on was himself. Webb slid into depression. Every week, the 150-mile drive between his family in Sacramento and his job in Cupertino became harder. Every day, it was harder to get out of bed and go to work.

And he was very angry most of the time. He says, "I was going to live in my own house and see my own kids. At some point, I figured something was going to give." Finally, he couldn't make it to work and took vacation time. When that was used up in early August, he started calling in sick. After that, he went on medical leave. A doctor examined him and said, "You are under a great deal of stress," and diagnosed him as having severe depression. He couldn't sleep. He couldn't do much of anything. He decided to write a book about "Dark Alliance," but this time no one wanted it. His agent was turned down by twenty-five publishers before finding a small press, Seven Stories, that operates as a kind of New York court of last resort.

A job offer came from the California state legislature to conduct investigations for the government-oversight committee at about the same money he made for the Mercury News. His wife said, Take the job. Why hang around in this limbo? Webb thought about her words and told himself, What do I win even if I do win in arbitration? I get to go back to my office and get bullshitted the rest of my life. He watered his lawn, worked on the house, read more and more contra stuff. Drifted in a sea of depression. "I didn't know what to do if I couldn't be a reporter," he says. "So all of a sudden, I was standing there on the edge of the cliff, and I don't have what I was doing for the last twenty years -- I don't have that to do anymore. I felt it was like I was neutered. I called up the Guild and said, 'Let's see if they want to settle this case.' They sent me a letter of resignation that I had to sign."

Webb carried the letter with him from November 19 to December 10 of last year. Every day, he got up to sign the letter and mail it. Every night, he went to bed with the letter unsigned. His wife would ask, Have you signed it? Somebody from the Mercury kept calling the Guild and asking, Has he signed it yet? "I mean," he says softly, "writing my name on that thing meant the end of my career. I saw it as a sort of surrender. It was like signing," and here he hesitates for several seconds, "my death certificate."

But finally he signed, and now he is functionally banned from the business. He's the guy nobody wants, the one who fucked up, the one who said bad things. Officially, he is dead, the guy who wrote the discredited series, the one who questioned the moral authority of the United States government.

If Gary Webb could have talked to a Hector Berrellez in the fall of 1996, when his stories were being erased by the media, Hector would have been like a savior to him. "Because he would have shown what I was reporting was not an aberration," Webb says now, "that this was part of a pattern of CIA involvement with drugs. And he would have been believed." But Webb was not that lucky, and the Hectors of the world were not that ready to talk then. So Webb was left out there alone, one guy with a bunch of interviews and documents. One guy who answered a question no one wanted asked.

I CAN HEAR HECTOR BERRELLEZ TELLING ME that I will never find a smoking gun. I can hear the critics of Gary Webb explaining that all he has is circumstantial evidence. Like anyone who dips into the world of the CIA, I find myself questioning the plain facts I read and asking myself, Does this really mean what I think it means?

-- In 1982, the head of the CIA got a special exemption from the federal requirement to report dealings with drug traffickers. Why did the CIA need such an exemption?
http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/cocaine/ex1.html
http://www.house.gov/waters/ciareportwww.htm
http://www.motherjones.com/sideshow/cia.html
-- Courthouse documents attest to the fact that the Blandon drug organization moved tons of dope for years with impunity, shipped millions to be laundered in Florida, and then bought arms for the contras. Why are Gary Webb's detractors not looking at these documents and others instead of bashing Webb over the head?

-- The internal CIA report of contra cocaine activity has never been released. The Justice Department investigation of Webb's charges has never been released. The CIA has released a censored report on only one volume of Webb's charges. The contra war is over, yet this material is kept secret. Why aren't the major newspapers filing Freedom of Information requests for these studies?

-- The fifty-year history of CIA involvement with heroin traffickers and other drug connections is restricted to academic studies and fringe publications. Those journalists who find themselves covering the war on drugs should read Alfred McCoy's massive study, The Politics of Heroin: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade, or Peter Dale Scott and Jonathan Marshall's Cocaine Politics: Drugs, Armies, and the CIA in Central America.

-- Following the release of "Dark Alliance," Senator John Kerry told The Washington Post, "There is no question in my mind that people affiliated with, on the payroll of, and carrying the credentials of, the CIA were involved in drug trafficking while involved in support of the contras." Why has the massive Kerry report been ignored to this day?
http://www.thememoryhole.org/kerry/index.htm

-- On March 16, 1998, the CIA inspector general, Frederick P. Hitz, testified before the House Intelligence Committee. "Let me be frank," he said. "There are instances where CIA did not, in an expeditious or consistent fashion, cut off relationships with individuals supporting the contra program who were alleged to have engaged in drug-trafficking activity, or take action to resolve the allegations."

Representative Norman Dicks of Washington then asked, "Did any of these allegations involve trafficking in the United States?"

"Yes," Hitz answered.

The question is why a mountain of evidence about the CIA and drugs is ignored and why the legitimate field of inquiry opened by Webb remains unpursued and has become journalistic taboo.

Maybe the CIA is great for America. But if it is, surely it can roll up its sleeves and show us its veins.

WEBB AND HIS WIFE, SUE, ARE STANDING IN the driveway with me after a Thai dinner in Sacramento. The night is fresh; spring is in the air. A frog croaks from the backyard on the quiet and safe suburban street. Sue has just finished rattling off details from one facet of the contra war, the CIA drug-airline operation run out of Ilopango airfield in El Salvador. She seems to have absorbed a library of material over the last three years of her husband's obsession. Before, he always worked like hell, she knows, but on this one he brought it home. He could not keep it separated from his wife and family and his weekly hockey games. So Sue, with her winning smile and cheerful ways, has become an authority on America's dark pages. And we stand there in the fine evening air, the rush of spring surging through the trees and grass and shrubs, talking about the endless details of this buried episode in the secret history.

And I wonder how Webb deals with it, with all the hard work done, with all the facts and documents devoured, and with all this diligent toil resulting in his personal ruin, depriving him of the only kind of work he has ever wanted in his life.

And I remember what he said earlier that day while he sat in his study, leaning toward me, his right hand gripping his left wrist: "The trail is littered with bodies. You go down the last ten years, and there is a skeleton here and a skeleton there of somebody that found out about it and wrote about it. I thought that this is the truth, and what can they do to you if you tell the truth? What can they do to you if you write the truth?"


(c)1998 by Hearst Communications, Inc. Printed in the USA.

Copyright � 1997-2004 by the Hearst Corporation.


Find this article at: /pubs/Esquire/1998/09/01/170764

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Distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful! -Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
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major_rager Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:55 AM
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142. COMPREHENSIVE EVIDENCE BEHIND WEBB STORY
The National Security Archives: (Awesome site!) http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/nsaebb2.htm
Ollie North�s diary entries, memos, email (2/26/04) http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB113/index.htm
Gary Webb�s Dark Alliance Home Page http://home.comcast.net/~gary.webb/wsb/html/view.cgi-home.html-.html
Congressional Testimony of Celerino Castillo: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/hall/contra1.html
Photographs and additional notes from Castillo�s career: http://www.drugwar.com/castillo.shtm
http://mediafilter.org/MFF/DEA.35.html
U.S. Congresswoman Maxine Waters� website: http://www.house.gov/waters/ (see press releases 1996-2000)
http://www.house.gov/waters/ciareportwww.htm and http://www.house.gov/waters/volii.press1198.htm
A Chronology From Mother Jones Magazine: http://www.motherjones.com/total_coverage/coke.html
http://www.motherjones.com/sideshow/cia.html
Actual copy of the CIA agreement allowing drugs: and and http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/cocaine/ex1.html
FAIR covers media cover-up http://www.fair.org/issues-news/contra-crack.html
California State University Northridge (CSUN) Professor of Communications Ben Attias�
Cocaine Import Agency website: http://www.csun.edu/CommunicationStudies/ben/news/cia/
Retired Federal Agent Michael Levine: http://www.expertwitnessradio.org/essays/e1.htm
Former Associated Press & Newsweek writer Bob Parry: http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/crack.html
Knight and Bernstein CIA-drug allegations 1987-1997 http://www.flashpoints.net/ArticleArchiveIndex.html
Interview with Professor Alfred McCoy: http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/heroin/mccoy1.htm
Former law enforcement agents comment on drug war: http://ciadrugs.homestead.com/files/
Website of Peter Dale Scott, Ph.D., a former Canadian diplomat and English Professor at the University of California, Berkeley and the author of Cocaine Politics: Drugs, Armies and the CIA in Central America. http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~pdscott/index.html
The Media Cover-Up: (excellent article) http://www.copi.com/articles/darker.html
The Kerry Commission�s report online:
http://www.thememoryhole.com/kerry/
Testimony of Lt. Col. James �Bo� Gritz http://www.aiipowmia.com/ssc/gritz.html and http://www.dcia.com/trimmer.html
http://www.supremelaw.org/authors/gritz/index.htm and http://www.serendipity.li/cia/gritz1.htm
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:17 PM
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159. This big hole connects at money laundering, 9/11 and several other........
points. I can only surmise the there could have been some connections being made with certain people. It's so big it's really hard to tell who is really buttering who's bread. That Florida flight school, Sibel Edmonds, and couple of them billionaires down there seem to be the obvious ones. The banking part is key though if you ask me. A lot of them records are kept in one way or another in places that cannot be gotten rid of. The key to vault would really seem the key to vault about a lot of it.

If you were going to play a hand of poker and you wanted to deal everybody a new hand of cards to show who is now calling the shots, would not a 9/11 be a good place to do it?


Comprehensive Sibel Edmonds site
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1973134

State Dept. Quashed 9/11 Links To Global Drug Trade
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=610235
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:46 PM
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160. What is this doing on p.2?
kick
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:51 PM
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162. p.3?
Kick
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:37 PM
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161. Alex Jones is also not letting it rest either
You may not like him, but suspicious minds think alike

http://www.prisonplanet.com/index.html
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:59 PM
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164. todays Flashpoints Robert Parry on Gary Webb
http://www.flashpoints.net/

excellent nearly an hour long discussion
tuesday 12-14
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Truthbeknown Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:08 PM
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166. Gary Webb-evidence of murder
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 03:39 AM
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167. Thanks for posting the link
Gangsters running the country and answerable to no one. Are you all getting any clues yet?
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 04:20 AM
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168. Good lord : (
I find it hard to believe that such a brave man would not face whatever problems he had head-on.

We lost a warrior.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 05:18 PM
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170. Coworker tribute to Gary Webb letter to editor,
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