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theearthisround (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:00 PM Original message |
Netherlands Hospital Euthanizes Babies |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. More red meat for the fundie brigade. |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. I think they care only if it's still a fetus. |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
2. this is what bob barber warned us about |
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Monkie (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
3. difficult subject |
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Komrade _azul (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
4. When they came for the child I did not protest....I was not a child. |
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tom II (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Well said |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. We do the same thing in the US, but not 'officially' |
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tom II (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. Get the facts straight: murder vs nature |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:15 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. The parents are involved in this decision |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:53 PM Response to Reply #36 |
68. I don't think so |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:51 PM Response to Reply #36 |
90. So, you would rather see humans suffer a painful death, but it's okay... |
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rooboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
91. Get the facts straight - LOL... |
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Scairp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:47 PM Response to Reply #91 |
109. You took the words right out of my mouth |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
94. God doesn't discriminate among the species. |
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Andromeda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 04:40 AM Response to Reply #94 |
189. I know this thread is more about human beings... |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
114. Right...human babies should be allowed to suffer to death. |
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BUSHOUT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:45 PM Response to Reply #36 |
117. Slippery slope? Try telling me I can't relieve the pain |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:34 PM Response to Reply #36 |
124. Yes. We are more humane to our pets. Would you rather a suffering child |
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Andromeda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 04:51 AM Response to Reply #124 |
190. I watched my husband's uncle |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 03:20 PM Response to Reply #36 |
211. morphine speeds along nature's course in US hospitals |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
133. There is a difference between being active and being passive. |
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Moonbeam_Starlight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:53 PM Response to Reply #133 |
164. Uh-huh |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. I don't understand |
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Moonbeam_Starlight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. Wow tom |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:48 PM Response to Reply #24 |
89. He sure is. |
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purduejake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
25. Come on.... |
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bobbyboucher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
72. Oh for Chrissake, what utter nonsense. |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
92. Well...that's two seconds I'll never get back. |
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JohnLocke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:39 PM Response to Reply #92 |
149. LOL |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. How do you feel about bombing infants? |
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Moonbeam_Starlight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
33. Good point htuttle |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
106. I'm against both. |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Terminal illness and disability |
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Tempest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Down's Syndrome is not a terminal disease |
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GinaMaria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Ever see a child die from a long illness? |
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lindashaw (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
37. This is a valid point. Not actively extending a life is completely |
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GinaMaria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. This was a common occurance on our unit |
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xpunkisneatx (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:24 PM Response to Reply #41 |
159. Good comment! |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 03:24 PM Response to Reply #41 |
213. and in my unit |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. Overreacting? terminally ill = sick and WILL die no matter what doctors do |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
131. I just went though a year with four beloved old pets dying. |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. I agree-this is not pulling the plug, this is actively killing |
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purduejake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. I thought we were talking about terminally ill |
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Moonbeam_Starlight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. They are NOT talking about |
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Anakin Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:27 PM Response to Reply #26 |
101. Great Points, Starlight. |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
30. Give me a break. |
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Moonbeam_Starlight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
32. Let's see |
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American Tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
52. I am generally highly skeptical of euthanasia |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:10 PM Response to Reply #52 |
75. Where exactly is the line drawn between mercy and murder? |
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Moonbeam_Starlight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:56 PM Response to Reply #52 |
165. You use common sense |
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George_S (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 02:09 PM Response to Reply #52 |
207. Agreed... Skeptical is good... |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
58. I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. People in pain and in a |
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Lu Kang (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
61. You know what terminally ill means? |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:14 PM Response to Reply #61 |
78. Oh yes! |
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popovfan (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 04:10 AM Response to Reply #78 |
188. I think Lu Kang was being sarcastic (nm) |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
104. I agree with you. |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:36 PM Response to Reply #104 |
115. "WEAK"??? "WEED OUT"???? |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:43 PM Response to Reply #115 |
125. Yes, I do know how to read |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:52 PM Response to Reply #125 |
128. Then READ the article FIRST |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:58 PM Response to Reply #128 |
130. I READ the article first! |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:08 PM Response to Reply #130 |
135. You were commenting on the Dutch and the article, and NOWHERE |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:12 PM Response to Reply #135 |
137. Very good arguments Lynn, I wish I had your patience! n/t |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:18 PM Response to Reply #137 |
142. Thanks |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:22 PM Response to Reply #135 |
143. I was referring to the part about the severely mentally retarded |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:33 PM Response to Reply #143 |
148. Dutch law; |
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Moonbeam_Starlight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:58 PM Response to Reply #143 |
166. And severely mentally retarded |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
113. Yes we should allow suffering babies to keep suffering until they die |
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Flammable Materials (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
147. Down's Syndrome is not a terminal illness. Nor is paralysis. |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
160. Exaggerate much? Try reading the article next time. |
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genieroze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:10 AM Response to Reply #4 |
172. For mercy killings of terminally ill newborns |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
5. Nothing new at all |
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gaia_gardener (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Not cutting the cord won't do anything |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:20 AM Response to Reply #11 |
176. Thanks for clearing that up! |
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David Dunham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. The Nazis did stuff like this in the 1930s and 1940s |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Yes, of course |
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Solitaire (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. and that's the problem... |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. Amazing how non of that is going on.... |
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bobbyboucher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
73. THEY'RE NAZIS!!!!!!!!!! THEY'RE NAZIS!!!!!!!!!! |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
140. It wasn't just the Nazis |
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Moonbeam_Starlight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:01 AM Response to Reply #140 |
168. I think you need to back up a bit here. |
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Kelvin Mace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. I think you mean |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:47 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Just repeated what a doctor told us once.. |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
82. Unfortunately |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
12. It sounds to me like they've got a good handle on things |
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purduejake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
29. I agree... |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #12 |
34. Ah, a voice of sanity |
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Ima (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
64. In less than |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
44. Parents |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
84. Here's the quote about parents - it's easy to overlook |
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DemExpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
50. I agree, and it IS excruciating. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
95. Excrutiating |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
21. U.S. blames it on legal marijuana in 4, 3, 2, .. |
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Moonbeam_Starlight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. It's usually even worse than what you described |
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Moonbeam_Starlight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
31. Now let's look at this quote from the article: |
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tom II (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. You put pets to sleep; not human beings. |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:17 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Not as awful... |
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ExclamationPoint (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. WHY DO YOU KEEP REPEATING THAT!! |
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Anakin Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:31 PM Response to Reply #43 |
103. He repeats that because... |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. No, you just increase the morphine drip. |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:59 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. Oh yeah, my 96 y.o. uncle died of continuous ... increase in |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:01 PM Response to Reply #57 |
93. I was given morphine |
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GinaMaria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 11:38 AM Response to Reply #93 |
199. opiates do not work for some people |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
62. You must be a religious nutcake, what rational reason could you |
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CAcyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
70. And thank god that we can put pets to sleep |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 07:39 AM Response to Reply #70 |
193. Yes, it would be a tough moral call ... |
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bobbyboucher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:11 PM Response to Reply #38 |
76. More horseshit. |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:28 PM Response to Reply #38 |
85. The saying, "Out of the woodwork", comes to mind. |
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purduejake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:17 PM Response to Reply #38 |
97. So you would prefer... |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:47 PM Response to Reply #38 |
127. The Netherlands happens to have a higher |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
162. Yeah. I hear they do a lot of drugs and I even think I heard |
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Moonbeam_Starlight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:03 AM Response to Reply #38 |
169. Glad to see you've been tombstoned |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 01:22 AM Response to Reply #38 |
182. Why in the world would |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 03:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
212. Yeah, we make sure the human suffers just like Jays'us, 'eh? |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
42. Awful |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:38 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. People get tired of the screaming... |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:44 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. If they are in pain, give them pain killers |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Yes, but "technically" you did allow a mercy suicide |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 01:09 AM Response to Reply #55 |
180. he had a living will |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 08:06 AM Response to Reply #180 |
195. He didn't have to die screaming in pain. |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 03:05 PM Response to Reply #195 |
208. try reading before you pass judgment |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:02 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. That's usually the same thing |
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Lu Kang (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:12 PM Response to Reply #49 |
63. Are you for real? |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:27 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. I don't claim to know anything about medicine |
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Moonbeam_Starlight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:05 AM Response to Reply #49 |
170. How histrionic can you get? |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 07:57 AM Response to Reply #49 |
194. No, I put my Old English Sheepdog (OES) "to sleep" |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. Have you ever seen anyone who was terminally ill? |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:50 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. yes |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:58 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Um, *terminal* illness |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:48 PM Response to Reply #56 |
67. death is unpleasant |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:43 PM Response to Reply #67 |
87. I don't know if I should write this or not |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:21 PM Response to Reply #87 |
99. I am very offended |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:36 PM Response to Reply #99 |
108. I'm not judging how you and your |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:56 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. . . . |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:00 PM Response to Reply #110 |
119. you're just all over the place |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:15 AM Response to Reply #119 |
174. of course not |
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Puglover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 01:02 PM Response to Reply #174 |
201. Actually trying to understand your point/s |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 03:09 PM Response to Reply #201 |
209. perhaps so |
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CatBoreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:26 PM Response to Reply #67 |
121. I wasn't going to respond to this but... |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 01:00 AM Response to Reply #121 |
179. I don't disagree |
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420inTN (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:56 PM Response to Reply #56 |
111. All Life is terminal... |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:02 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. If I were suffering and unable to communicate |
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purduejake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:19 PM Response to Reply #42 |
98. You don't like it? |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:45 PM Response to Reply #42 |
116. Why not "let them die naturally"??? Another one unable to read. |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
46. We do this here too |
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judaspriestess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
48. Can we say invasion on a christian crusade? |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 01:33 PM Response to Reply #48 |
205. I can |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
53. Hey, whatever you do don't tell ... |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
65. This is going to get a lot of attention, |
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KitSileya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
69. As I understand it, the dilemma is often in pain relief |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
71. I personally think that MD's play God with preemies a bit too much |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:50 PM Response to Reply #71 |
152. If doctors were God, they'd know what to do |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
74. Ok...I am very pro choice, but this is f*cking insane. |
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bobbyboucher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:14 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. You are over-reacting a bit I'd say, but you aren't alone, so |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:15 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. I did. I have a problem with it. However, can't empathize with |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:31 PM Response to Reply #80 |
102. Reading your comments on other posts, I can't say that I'm |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:07 PM Response to Reply #102 |
120. Rational reason? Nah |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:18 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. Why because you don't approve? |
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Bono71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:24 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Ah yes... |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:28 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. Oh please do |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:33 PM Response to Reply #86 |
105. This Bono can't seem to help himself. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 03:29 PM Response to Reply #74 |
214. and what your opinin of "this" has to do with CHOICE -- |
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preciousdove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
77. Have you ever watched a baby die? |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:44 PM Response to Reply #77 |
88. Yes, there are |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:08 PM Response to Reply #88 |
96. For all who live |
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CatBoreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:32 PM Response to Reply #77 |
122. HUGS.... |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:01 PM Response to Reply #77 |
132. My heart goes out to you and your family for having to endure that |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
100. What's wrong with that? |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
107. Surprise, Surprise, Drudge is making a big deal of this! n/t |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:57 PM Response to Reply #107 |
118. Of course he is; the rightwingnuts want all humans to SUFFER baby SUFFER! |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
112. YAY! |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
123. I dont like this... |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:54 PM Response to Reply #123 |
129. When the babies are IN PAIN that meds CAN'T RELIEVE |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:07 PM Response to Reply #129 |
134. You had better be VERY careful with enacting such legislation... |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:10 PM Response to Reply #134 |
136. Yes...exactly like the procedures mentioned |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:17 PM Response to Reply #136 |
141. Im sorry if I remain hesitant and stubborn on this... |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:50 PM Response to Reply #141 |
151. Think about it. |
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tewl (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:03 PM Response to Reply #151 |
154. Unfortunately, that is not always true |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:30 PM Response to Reply #154 |
161. Ok... |
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tewl (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:38 PM Response to Reply #161 |
163. Question: |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:01 AM Response to Reply #163 |
167. Yes I'm ok with that. |
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Puglover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 01:10 PM Response to Reply #141 |
202. How many |
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Moonbeam_Starlight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:10 AM Response to Reply #123 |
173. Read the whole article |
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floridaguy (751 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
126. I read a few of the early posts and thought I was in the twilight zone! |
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TheDebbieDee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 03:00 AM Response to Reply #126 |
187. Way ahead of the curve is right... |
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Puglover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 01:12 PM Response to Reply #126 |
203. The Dutch are lightyears ahead of the USA |
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Oreegone (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
138. No wonder George Bush is President |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:28 PM Response to Reply #138 |
145. No kidding! |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:28 PM Response to Reply #138 |
146. Notice those that are opposed |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
139. It's Netherlands vs Neanderthals. Netherlands 100 - Neanderthals 0. |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
144. As a nursing student and "almost RN", I fully support this |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
150. Ceusescu tried to kill off disabled children |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:58 PM Response to Reply #150 |
153. And yet another one that didn't bother reading the article |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:06 PM Response to Reply #153 |
155. I read the article |
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Il_Coniglietto (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:18 PM Response to Reply #155 |
157. I bet it would |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:24 PM Response to Reply #155 |
158. You misundersdtood the article then |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:15 AM Response to Reply #153 |
175. yet another one who didn't read my post |
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tewl (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
156. Parental consent is NOT required! |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:08 AM Response to Reply #156 |
171. Even with the older provision, I still agree with the law |
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tewl (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 07:11 AM Response to Reply #171 |
191. well then |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 07:18 AM Response to Reply #191 |
192. You too |
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tewl (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 09:43 AM Response to Reply #192 |
197. And I hope someday you'll get off your cross |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 10:45 AM Response to Reply #197 |
198. Cross not needed to believe the patient should be the #1 priority |
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Puglover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 01:19 PM Response to Reply #198 |
204. Sorry but cannot convince me that sanctimonious jerks |
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Moonbeam_Starlight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
177. Got a little story for ya. |
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kittykitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:47 AM Response to Reply #177 |
178. That was a story with a moral, Moonbeam. Did anyone see "Wit" on HBO? |
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Moonbeam_Starlight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 01:11 AM Response to Reply #178 |
181. I'm not sure what the motivation was for my aunt's doctors |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 01:51 AM Response to Reply #181 |
184. You can never tell what might happen |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 02:08 AM Response to Reply #181 |
185. One of the first experiences a nurse friend of mine |
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hickman1937 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
183. I've read this whole thread |
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KitSileya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 01:58 PM Response to Reply #183 |
206. Actually, I think that's the best argument against this I've seen. |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 03:13 PM Response to Reply #183 |
210. Sorry, this is no slippery slope, did you not read the article |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 03:37 PM Response to Reply #183 |
215. nicely said--thanks kickman1937--there is wisdom in your post |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 02:22 AM Response to Original message |
186. What the hell is happening to us guys? |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 08:18 AM Response to Reply #186 |
196. "You guys" are a small proportion of the posters here. |
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xerox (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
200. Somebody |
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Marlena (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
216. moot point; it ain't gonna happen here anytime soon |
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