Poll: Americans want Roe V. Wade upheld

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WASHINGTON - A majority of Americans say President Bush's next choice for an opening on the Supreme Court should be willing to uphold the landmark court decision protecting abortion rights, an Associated Press poll found.

The poll found that 59 percent say Bush should choose a nominee who would uphold the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion. About three in 10, 31 percent, said they want a nominee who would overturn the decision, according to the poll conducted for the AP by Ipsos-Public Affairs.

"While I don't have a strong feeling about abortions personally, I wouldn't want the law overturned and return to the days of backdoor abortions," said Colleen Dunn, 40, a Republican and community college teacher who lives outside Philadelphia.

The preference for Supreme Court nominees who would uphold Roe v. Wade could be found among both men and women, most age groups, most income groups and people living in urban, suburban and rural areas. Fewer than half of Republicans, evangelicals and those over 65 said they favored a nominee who would uphold the abortion ruling.
http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tallahassee/10290958.htm

[Sleepless In NY]

1. Yet they voted for bush?

I give up.

[WindRavenX]

3. I call these people for what they are-

BLOODY MORONS!!!!!
WHY do Republican women who are pro-choice VOTE for the ANTI-CHOICE PARTY??
Fucking A...

[ramapo]

13. Not just Republican women

I couldn;t tell you how many women have answered when I asked them to square their vote for Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II with the Republican goal of making abortion illegal with, "They would never do that".

[WindRavenX]

15. not paying attention then

"If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention"

[question everything]

20. There are pro-choice Republican women, just as there are Republican gay

men and women.

They think that they can work within the system. And, I suppose, they provide a token of "big tent" to the party to attract young professional who think that government is bad (except, of course, when it is expanded during a Republican administration)

[Julien Sorel]

28. Because they feel confident Roe v Wade is safe.

No one really thinks it will be repealed, so the Republicans get it both ways. They pander to the anti-abortion crowd, while the moderates take it for granted that they are just pandering. It's a political free lunch for the Republicans.

[NNN0LHI]

9. The majority of respondents to this same poll did not know who...

...William Rehnquist was? It was about only 30% who knew who he was. Ignorance is bliss.

Don

[Thurston Howell IV]

23. Goes to show that the vote for president is a personal one

ie, who would I rather have a beer with?

Democrats would do well to pay attention to this anti-rational tendency in the electorate.

In various areas across the country (Wisconsin, Montana, Colorado, etc), Democrats won handily, but Kerry lost.

[fujiyama]

37. People also want

better healthcare and better schools and...

People are stupid.

[goforit]

2. The only way to uphold this is to demand for VASECTOMIES!!!!

May all those Christian boys step forward.........

front and center!!!!

[sonicx]

4. we knew this before the election...

we also know that most people in America want universal health care...

but they vote repuke.

makes my head shake...

[ArthurDent]

5. The vast majority of Americans....

... couldn't tell you what RvW is about, nor what its overruling would mean.

[sonicx]

7. the poll told the respondants what RvW was...

[ArthurDent]

18. Really?

"Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion"

RwV didn't legalize abortion. It was legal in a lot of states already.

[sonicx]

19. they're just keeping it simple for the masses...

but purhaps they should have said 'legalized nationwide'

[OutsourceBush]

6. Then the dumb arsses should have voted that way

what rubbish!

[Old and In the Way]

8. Kinda makes you wonder if the election was stolen.

We always have the clear majority on the issues, but somehow the voter can't figure which Party reflects his personal interests best? Too counter-intuitive for my brain to grok.

[Mandate My Ass]

17. Yup, nothing is as it seems: First exit polls were deemed unreliable

Then all we heard from the presstitutes until this point is that people voted on morals. Now they just got around to telling us that a clear majority wanted Roe v. Wade upheld then voted against the person who had promised to do so!

Coincidence? I think not.

[bluestateguy]

10. Roe v. Wade will be gone by the next election

Timeline:

mid-2006: there will be 3 new Scalia-like clones on the USSC.

late-2006; Some Red State will test the waters by passing a law banning abortion. Lawsuits will be filed within minutes of the law's enactment.

late-2006-2007: Bill wends it's way thorugh the courts.

mid-2008: the USSC hears the case.

October 2008: USSC repeals Roe v. Wade--right in the middle of the presidential campaign.

[YankeyMCC]

11. Framing the debate

Got this tip from George Lakoff's article "How to Respond to conservatives" http://www.rockridgeinstitute.org/research/lakoff/howtorespond

"Suppose he brings up abortion. Raise the issue of military rape treatment. Women soldiers who are raped (by our own soldiers, in Iraq, or on military bases) and who subsequently get pregnant presently cannot end their pregnancies in a military hospital, because abortions are not permitted there. A Military Rape Treatment Act would allow our raped women soldiers to be treated in military hospitals to end their rapeinduced pregnancies. The wedge: If he agrees, he sanctions abortion, in government-supported facilities no less, where doctors would have to be trained and facilities provided for terminating pregnancies. If he disagrees, he dishonors our women soldiers who are putting their lives on the line for him. To the women it is like being raped twice — once by a criminal soldier and once by a self-righteous conservative."

[Yavin4]

29. That Argument Won't Fly

The fundie would just say that women don't belong in the military in the first place.

[YankeyMCC]

35. Right

And then you've exposed them for what they are and I would expect a lot of women veterans and the male veterans who've served with and respect them turning away from people like that.

[BillZBubb]

12. Of course when the Chimperor picks an anti-Roe judge...

...70% will scream for the Dems to let him get through the Senate confirmation.

MORONS!

[tom_paine]

14. As if what the Imperial Subjects of Amerika means even a little bit

to the Imperials.

Not enough laughter icons in the world for that one...

Fuck 'em. Damn us all to hell.

(and where else but the AntiChrist be taking us?)

[fshrink]

16. If elected, he can do whatever the heck he freakin' pleases. nt

[CRK7376]

21. Damn Skippy!

I want my wife and daughter to have a choice! Roe vs Wade is crucial. I fear the GOP and their nuclear option.....

[Zynx]

22. Even many who are pro-life don't want Roe overturned.

They know it would be an utter mess.

[Erika]

24. Bush's Theocracy on the March

Evidently many voters did not realize the Taliban nature of Bush and his administration. They are finding out.

[fortyfeetunder]

25. Critical thinking failed once again

This attitude reminds me of the Fair Labor Standards Act * pushed thru to redefine overtime pay. Now I knew of some Pugs who were working like hell to get Chao and Co. to back off some of the provisions, but Bush made Chao push them through anyway. Well, you know who the Pugs voted for this election....and now Congress is constantly fighting Bush to back off on the provisions, which shouldn't have been there in the first place.

Same thing here with reproductive freedom. It's one thing to assume one can work with the system when the system appears to be flexible and non-authoritarian. But this is not the system we are dealing with.

[Moderator]

26. Duplicate

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1028994

[Crunchy Frog]

27. The American people will get

exactly what they voted for. They should have bothered to inform themselves a little before they voted, but now they're just going to have to live with the consequences. I include in their number, the ones who didn't bother to vote at all.

I feel bad for the Kerry voters who will have to live with the consequences of the Bush voters choices.

[CityDem]

30. This poll is irrelevant

The only poll that matters is taken in front of 9 justices -- 3 or 4 soon to be appointed by AWOL/Falwell/Robertson/Dobson.

[GOPBasher]

I'm sorry for the people who DIDN'T vote for Bush, but I don't care about

those who did. If they voted for Bush, and then they're upset that Roe vs. Wade is overturned, they're fucking idiots and deserve what they get.

[pa28]

36. Apparently 10% of Americans fit that profile.

If they want to change parties they are welcome. Otherwise I'm through feeling sorry for people who voted for Bush.

[GOPBasher]

31. I'm sorry for the people who DIDN'T vote for Bush, but I don't care about

those who did. If they voted for Bush, and then they're upset that Roe vs. Wade is overturned, they're fucking idiots and deserve what they get.

[Tight_rope]

32. Well the dumbass shouldn't now have voted for Bush*

[ktowntennesseedem]

33. Is that a backlash I see on the horizon?

It's things like this that keep me hopeful for the future. If * appoints hard-line pro-lifers and Roe v Wade is no more, a lot of moderate, pro-choice Republicans will be upset. But if * fails to deliver the promises made to the theocratic idiots that put him back in office, their wrath should be at least ten-fold over the anger from the moderates. Looks like a lose-lose situation to me!

[Anakin Skywalker]

34. Well Don't Ruin the Conservatives'

wet dream! The "America Voted on Values" crowd really wants to believe that most Americans support their neanderthal agenda, when in reality that's not the case.

[0rganism]

38. Maybe next time more of those 59%ers will turn out to vote

In the meantime? We're all fucked. May as well get used to it.

Perhaps the problem is these people are not yet fucked enough, or have difficulty understanding how fucked they already are. Let's see how far it has to slip before they show up at the polls to support their latent desire for single-payer healthcare and civil liberties.