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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:05 AM
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Voting Machines Count Backwards in Okla.--Vote Fraud Suspected
Here is link to article in paper about this:

http://okimc.org/newswire.php?story_id=344
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:28 AM
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1. Should we get over it?
We were told to last time...
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:34 AM
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2. Hell, no
This is how he got that crazy three million votes for his supposed mandate. We need a new election folks. This time with no machines in the way, only human, impartial hands.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 04:25 AM
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10. 110K votes x 31 states = 4.31 million mandate...n/t
:(
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:41 AM
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3. Absolutely not!!
Who told us to "get over it" last time? The Repugs.

No way, no how. That's what they're counting on.

NO!!
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:52 AM
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4. looking at the links
SOMEONE (or Skinner?) PLEASE SEND THIS TO KERRY, NOT SURE HOW:



http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004//pages/results/states/OK/P/00/county.000.html

in the above link, the final CNN count shows Kerry got just over 2500 votes in Adair County, with 100% of the precincts counted,

BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

this link below from the paper, says that Kerry has over 3700 votes in the same county with 70% of the votes counted

http://www.tulsaworld.com/TWPDFs/2004/Final/A_10_11_3_2004.pdf

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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:08 AM
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6. Whoa, that's a good find
Very good find!!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 04:13 AM
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8. Omigosh! The NEXT county, Alfalfa is also way off!
Tulsa's paper says 1075 for Kerry, while CNN says 470 with 100% of the precincts reporting.

Then, Atoka: Tulsa paper says Kerry, 2897 and CNN says 1946......

Someone HAS to look at this! Thank you, themartyred.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:58 AM
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5. Change the name of the U.S. to Ukraine 2
Then, the media might care about vote fraud.
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okTracer Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:32 AM
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7. If Oklahoma was going to Kerry ...
How many other so called red states were really going to Kerry before the voting machines changed to vote?
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shuffnew Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 04:20 AM
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9. Fraud Uncovered in Okla Election... (another ref. found)
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 04:26 AM by shuffnew
Fraud Uncovered in Okla Election
http://www.soonerthought.com/archives/cat_news_commentary.html
by Bob Nichols

<snip....>
An original TW/AP November 3, 2004 article shows higher vote counts in 57 counties for Presidential Candidate John Kerry than the Official State Election Board Results.

The address for the State Election Board results Adobe file is:
http://www.state.ok.us/~elections/04gen_co.pdf
Look on page 3 and 4. Skip page 1 and 2, those are straight party voting results, a state subsidized analysis for the benefit of political parties.
<end of snip...>

Problem is, I cannot find where in the Tulsa World Nov. 3rd article where there is a county vote report showing Kerry ahead with 70% of the vote in. All I could find was an online link to page A-10 on Nov. 3rd (but I don't see the data on that page that he is referring to...)Tulsa World Nov 3rd (page A-10) --- I cannot locate the numbers he is referring to that show Kerry with a lead w/ 70% completed in of the votes though-- is there some other page of Tulsa World that we should be looking at or is the "unofficial" count on page A-10 supposedly at 70% of votes in)?
http://www.tulsaworld.com/TWPDFs/2004/Final/A_10_11_3_2004.pdf

Your post references the below article:
Voting Machines Count Backwards in Okla.
by Bob Nichols Saturday, Nov 27 2004, 3:13am
bobnichols@cox.net
national / elections & legislation / news report
http://okimc.org/newswire.php?story_id=344 (your post's referenced article...)

<excerpt snip from your above referenced article in your post below>:
57 Rural Counties Affected - Vote Fraud Suspected

Rural Oklahoma Voting machines know how to count backwards.

(Oklahoma City) November 18, 2004 - Rural Oklahoma Voting machines know how to count backwards.

That looks like what the secretly programmed machines did for Sen. Kerry in President Bush's easily won Presidential Election victory in Oklahoma.

All 77 counties use the Optech Eagle voting machines and Tabulator's made by ES&S, Sen Hagel's republican company.

The respectable, conservative "Tulsa World" newspaper reported Nov 3rd that Kerry was winning in 57 of the states's rural counties., with 70% of the vote counted. Turns out that the famous November 3rd report was probably not supposed to be printed.

It represented the counting when the tabulating was about 70% "complete," as they used to say in the old Soviet Union.
<end of excerpt snip...>

I'm having trouble finding the 70% of vote counted tabulations reported in your referenced link that supposedly shows Kerry winning in 57 counties... I found "unofficial results by county" on page A-10 of the Nov. 3rd issue and maybe that is where he says Kerry was ahead in 57 counties... dunno, do you have any add'l info? Perhaps the "unofficial results on page A-10 by county could be with 70% completed in that chart?" located at : http://www.tulsaworld.com/TWPDFs/2004/Final/A_10_11_3_2004.pdf
chart shows: Kerry w/ total of 441,220 and Bush 565,967 (124,747 difference) out of line by county with the state posted results by county located at: http://www.state.ok.us/~elections/04gen_co.pdf
(showing Kerry lost votes between page A-10 "unofficial results" and the official elections posting?) and then compare to the CNN tally:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004//pages/results/states/...

:shrug:



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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 05:16 AM
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11. This is the SAME thing that happened in North Carolina!!
It's been under investigation here. Sheesh! These guys stole the vote ALL OVER THE COUNTRY!! We definitely need a new election in the USA with paper ballots, not vapor ballots!!

Kerry won this election by a HUGE landslide! So why in the hell is bush sitting so smugly in the white house, gloating about his "man date"??

:kick::kick:
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 05:18 AM
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12. This source
is not news. It is posted elsewhere on DU.
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