Second Sunni Cleric Gunned Down in Iraq

[leftchick]

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3792849

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Masked gunmen today assassinated a Sunni cleric north of Baghdad, police said – the second such killing in as many days.

Sheik Ghalib Ali al-Zuhairi was a member of the Association of Muslim Scholars, an influential Sunni clerics group that has spoken out against nationwide elections to be held on January 30.

Al-Zuhairi was shot as he was leaving Thiyaba Mosque in the town of Muqdadiyah after dawn prayers, said Col Raisan Hussein. He was taken to Muqdadiya Hospital where he later died. Muqdadiyah is about 57 miles north of Baghdad.

A day earlier, unknown gunmen assassinated another prominent Sunni cleric in the northern city of Mosul – Sheik Faidh Mohamed Amin al-Faidhi, who was the brother of the group’s spokesman.

[amber dog democrat]

1. You don't suppose the US had a hand in it, do you?

Even if this is just part of the prelude to a coming civii war, its convenient to get people like this out of the way, i.e. if the elections are going to happen and legitimize the puppet regime we installed.

let freedom reign.

[xultar]

2. Of course not, the US is very tolerant of freedom of religion. n/t

[AKing]

11. Negroponte death squad? NT

[saigon68]

3. This is a CIA hit

They are getting rid of the opposition to the "FREE" election in 45 days.

[ElectroPrincess]

5. I tend to agree ...

The obfuscation and outright lies are piling up so fast with regard to the Iraqi occupation, one needs wings to rise above it. :(

[leftchick]

10. that was my thought with the first assasination....

the parallels with Viet Nam just don't quit.

[maddezmom]

4. Allawi made it clear yesterday...if you speak out against the elections

you are an enemy of the state. How many more assassinations will there be?? :eyes:


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We went to Fallujah and we broke their back," he said. "We found enough weapons there to destroy an entire country."


He said that because of the success in Fallujah, "those who will try to obstruct democracy and election are finished. ... They don't have a safe haven anymore."


Allawi also criticized the Sunni association, accusing some of its members of inciting violence.

"Those who call for violence will be dealt with by force. The judicial system also will deal with those who allow themselves to stoke hatreds," he warned. "I hope that those who call themselves the Association of Muslim Scholars rise to the standards set by Islam as a religion of love and tolerance."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=1&u=/ap/20041122/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

[saigon68]

8. Well He's "OUR THUG" and "OUR HOODLUM"

Paid for by the US taxpayer, at the expense of hungry and homeless children in amerika.

[Sandpiper]

6. Look's like the Phoenix Program is back

The only real question is, does anyone think the CIA WASN'T behind this?

[maddezmom]

7. and again the use of the word "gunmen"...not insurgents, rebels, etc

[RuleofLaw]

15. I was just going to comment on that

Nice catch!

[ilovenicepeople]

17. BINGO! the truth is in the wording ,good catch indeed

Why is it that masked men are never called insurgents?

[leftchick]

12. Exactly....

http://www.serendipity.li/cia/operation_phoenix.htm

~snip~

Vietnam, 65-70 details re Vietnam. From 65-68 U.S. and Saigon intel services maintained an active list of VC cadre marked for assassination. Phoenix Program for 69 called for "neutralizing" 1800 a month. About one third of VC targeted for arrest had been summarily killed. Security committees established in provincial interrogation centers to determine fate of VC suspects, outside of judicial controls. Green Berets and navy SEALs most common recruits for Phoenix Program. Green Beret detachment B-57 provided admin cover for other intel units. One was project cherry, tasked to assassinate Cambodian officials suspected of collaborating with NVNese, and kgb. Another was project oak targeted against svnese suspected collaborators. They controlled by special assistant for counterinsurgency and special activities, which worked with CIA outside of general abrams control. Stein. J. (1992), A Murder in Wartime, 360-1.

Vietnam, 66-73 Phoenix op from 1/68 thru 5/71, CORDS reported 20,857 VCI killed. Gvt of VN reported 40,994 from 8/68 thru mid 71. Per cord statistics 12.4% Deaths could be attributed to Phoenix ops. Kenneth osborn of program said Phoenix became a depersonalized murder program. A dept of defense analyst thayer, found that 616 suspected VCI targeted by Phoenix from 1/70 thru 3/71 were killed by Phoenix forces. After war NVNese foreign minister Nguyen Co Thach said CIA's assassination program slaughtered far more than the 21,000 officially listed by the U.S. In some parts of south 95% of communist cadre assassinated or compromised by Phoenix. Manning, R., (ed), (1988), War in the Shadows: the Vietnam Experience, 72.

[0007]

13. Perhaps John Negroponte can answer your question

Iran/Contra convict runs Iraq!

[theHandpuppet]

9. This is the doing of Allawi and the CIA

Only our media is to cowardly to even allude to it -- and obviously no one cares, not even our own Dem representatives in Congress.

Allawi is just another Saddam, but with the military might of the US to back him up.

[ilovenicepeople]

18. Your media is talking about it ,you just have to search out that media

Let me give you a hand www.infowars.com

[grumpy old fart]

20. Geez, what a tin foil hat link that was....

Conspiracies everywhere. You list this as a news site?

[ilovenicepeople]

21. Yes I list it as a news site,some people don't drink Kool-aid

Now go back to sleep:boring:

[grumpy old fart]

25. dude, the site's got like conspiracy upon conspiracy....

and when it get that muddled, it loses a lot of legitimacy, no?

[leftchick]

22. reposted this just for you g o f....

Our government has a history of this sort of dirty covert activity. It is no 'conspiracy theory', open your eyes!


http://www.serendipity.li/cia/operation_phoenix.htm

~snip~

Vietnam, 65-70 details re Vietnam. From 65-68 U.S. and Saigon intel services maintained an active list of VC cadre marked for assassination. Phoenix Program for 69 called for "neutralizing" 1800 a month. About one third of VC targeted for arrest had been summarily killed. Security committees established in provincial interrogation centers to determine fate of VC suspects, outside of judicial controls. Green Berets and navy SEALs most common recruits for Phoenix Program. Green Beret detachment B-57 provided admin cover for other intel units. One was project cherry, tasked to assassinate Cambodian officials suspected of collaborating with NVNese, and kgb. Another was project oak targeted against svnese suspected collaborators. They controlled by special assistant for counterinsurgency and special activities, which worked with CIA outside of general abrams control. Stein. J. (1992), A Murder in Wartime, 360-1.

Vietnam, 66-73 Phoenix op from 1/68 thru 5/71, CORDS reported 20,857 VCI killed. Gvt of VN reported 40,994 from 8/68 thru mid 71. Per cord statistics 12.4% Deaths could be attributed to Phoenix ops. Kenneth osborn of program said Phoenix became a depersonalized murder program. A dept of defense analyst thayer, found that 616 suspected VCI targeted by Phoenix from 1/70 thru 3/71 were killed by Phoenix forces. After war NVNese foreign minister Nguyen Co Thach said CIA's assassination program slaughtered far more than the 21,000 officially listed by the U.S. In some parts of south 95% of communist cadre assassinated or compromised by Phoenix. Manning, R., (ed), (1988), War in the Shadows: the Vietnam Experience, 72.

[Tempest]

14. NEGROPONTE!

This is EXACTLY what he did in Central America.

[ElectroPrincess]

23. By Jove! Shall we waltz?

[barb162]

16. I would say wait and let the full story come out but I don't think it

will. I think we all would love to see democracy established in Iraq. But democracy needs secularism. Saddam was secular but look at the force he had to use to keep things somewhat secular.

It wouldn't surprise me if these gunmen were Shiite, trained by the US.

[CityDem]

19. More killings

Iraq is a dangerous place and the Sunni supported insurgents have been busy bombing and killing other Iraqis. This assassination may be the work of the Shites who are in the majority -- were repressed under Saddam -- and are going to win a majority in the elections. Prominent Sunnis who are vocal in their opposition to the elections may want to avoid answering the door. Too bad for this cleric, but shit happens in a country on the brink of a civil war.

[ElectroPrincess]

24. Well, it would be nice for the friends and family of *all* the

deceased persons in the Sunni Triangle be given a more definitive explanation of what happened to their loved one other than, "Shit happens." Damn, that reminds me of senior officers dismissing something that wasn't important to THEM. No gig on you but the term "Shit Happens" to explain killing is just "UnSat!" ;)

[Endangered Specie]

26. Same shit different day.