Bush Has a Plan to Create Jobs -AP

[Rose Siding]

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Hiring is picking up and President Bush is on track to preside over job growth in his second term, shedding the Herbert Hoover label of being the first president since the Great Depression to lose jobs under his watch.
.........
Economists estimate that an average of about 1.4 million jobs in the United States will be created each year over the next decade as businesses strive ever more to compete globally. That compares with an average of about 2.8 million added annually during President Clinton's eight years in office.

``We can expect to see a mediocre job market for the next year from the perspective of workers,'' said Peter Morici, an economist and international business professor at the University of Maryland. ``And we can expect to see moderate growth in the economy and employment, but not enough to turn what is essentially a buyers' market into a sellers' market.''

Analysts say Bush's tax cuts helped the economy through recession and that while job creation lagged, extending them would encourage new hiring.
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The jobs market also has been shaky because of rising costs for health care and other benefits. Employers responded by working their existing employees harder to avoid increased expenses of new workers.

To control health costs, Bush wants to limit jury awards in medical malpractice lawsuits and to expand tax-free health savings accounts that can be used to pay medical bills. Economists doubt the measures would have much affect.

http://nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Second-Term-Jobs.html

Then this from the oracle David Wyss, chief economist at Standard & Poor's in New York: "The biggest problem with deficits is you have to pay them back."

[NVMojo]

1. It's called the Axis of Evil --- the Draft!

[GetTheRightVote]

6. I will never be drafted, me or mine

he is not our president so therefore we do not need to listen to him or his adminstration. Until we have a real elected president I do not have follow any law created by this admin (cheating) because it is not binding to me. That is the price they pay for cheating us out of our real president period.

[coreystone]

40. I whole heartedly support Rep. Rangle's bill....just make sure the twins..

go first.


:mad:

[mhr]

Unemployed 53 Months - I Don't Believe A Word Of It

eom

[Just Me]

57. Whoops! You bought into that MYTH about "education",...

,...rather than the reality that,...it's not what you know but rather who you know that BUYS success.

Yup. They've been SELLING that myth for quite some time. Now, they are telling everyone that mere "education" isn't enough,...we must all be scientists and mathmetic wizards to be valuable and worthy.

Who are "they"? Well, "they" are the ones who have concentrated their power over us,...for quite some time. "They" will no more SHARE their power with us,...than those from whom we supposedley escaped from to establish this country.

So sad. Too bad. Who pays?

[PROGRESSIVE1]

2. Bill Clinton had 22 Million new jobs and Bush will have at best...

4-5 million "new" jobs.

Even Reagan did better than this. Also, we need more jobs now because we have a much larger population!

[VivaKerry]

11. Except, bush won't have any job creation....

so it's absurd to even compare clinton's actual record vs. bush's PROJECTED record.....

[Denver Socialist]

33. If anything. It's a McJob.

Like I have now. :cry:

[The Zanti Regent]

3. Hello, PRESIDENTIAL PRAYER TEAM!-- are YOU praying for jobs...

...Sure you are...

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

4. Bush has a plan.

Today's laugh riot.

[Robert Oak]

5. called shipping our jobs to India and China

& a new skill, begging...

My point here is the press is so evil...

they gotta be kidding publishing these white house press releases
that are nothing but misinformation and lies.

It's been proven over and over those tax cuts hurt the economy
and job creation.

They don't report it! They present both sides at best as fact...

how can they continue to present this crud as a valid viewpoint
when so much evidence says it's nothing but propaganda.

[libpunkmom]

25. Press IS evil

I proved my point to my sister-inlaw about the press last night. She was watching the CBS news.. The anchor woman mentioned the new spending bill that was passed yesterday, did not mention anything that was in that bill. It lasted (being generous here) 2-5 seconds. Then said that after the break they would talk about the fight in the NBA. I looked at my sister inlaw and said "Now you watch, they will talk about the NBA for 3-5 minutes." I was wrong, they talked about it for the rest of the news!! I just looked at her and laughed. Then said, "Yeah, me and the people like me, are crazy to think the media keeps the American people in the dark.."

[Spinzonner]

39. Repeat after me

The purpose of commercial television news is not informing or enlightening, it's entertainment.

[Cocoa]

7. how sound is this method of comparison?

Comparing estimated jobs under Bush to actual jobs under Clinton?

Especially when previous such estimates have consistently failed to come even close?

Economists estimate that an average of about 1.4 million jobs in the United States will be created each year over the next decade as businesses strive ever more to compete globally. That compares with an average of about 2.8 million added annually during President Clinton's eight years in office.

[kysrsoze]

35. Well, when you consider how much the entire labor pool grows each year

this figure bites ass. He's not even keeping up with new people entering the pool. Not to mention the fact that we were promised plenty of new jobs already and they never materialized. Bush is a pathetic liar and a miserable failure who can't seem to do anything but destroy whatever he touches. Black thumb!

[DireStrike]

8. Welcome to the United Serfdom of America.

Don't forget to keep 80 percent of your produce for your lord! After all, he owns the means of production.

[gulfcoastliberal]

19. Neo Feudalism

Goes along with the Neo Dark Ages.

[CAcyclist]

34. Right service" economy is actually the "servant" economy n/t

[Cocoa]

9. is this disclaimer a joke by the AP?

But don't expect a revival of the booming 1990s.

Or does the reporter actually think that people are going to go overboard at the ten gazillionth optimistic jobs-predicting news story?

[Career Prole]

10. And we all know how remarkably spot-on they've been with

the job creation prognostications since democracy died.
They just keep forgetting to add the rejoinder "give or take a few million".

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. In India and China?

He is doing FINE in that department

Hey George has anybody dared to show you the DECLINING economic indicators five months in a row?

No....

What you'd fire them?

How HOOVER of you.

[TexasChick]

15. No, in the US of course, i.e. Wal-Mart, Krogers, Walgreens, MickeyDee's,

Burger King. You know, the jobs of the 21st century!

[Triana]

13. YES. In India and China. F*cking Bastard...

...He has the WORST jobs record since Herbert Hoover in the Great Depression and he can KISS MY A**. His tax cuts for the rich and corprats DID NOT create jobs. They will not. We've SEEN what they do - nothing - at least not if you're someone who has to work for a living. If you're a corprat or a rich bastard, well you got a big bonus off the backs of 'the rest of the peasantry' out there. Yee haa.

And - if you're a woman or other 'minority' you're doubly screwed - first to get shitcanned, LAST anyone would ever hire back - because some Republican's nephew or stepson always needs a job instead - whether he's qualified or NOT. GEORGE is not and was not qualified for HIS job, why should his friend's male job seekers have to be qualified? They don't. They just need a penis to keep their peabrain in and a good name or good family connections.

If you're female, you're expected to go home, get in the bed and the kitchen and stay barefoot and pregnant - NOT have a job, much less a paying or decent one. bu$hit. That's the Repuke way.

Edited to correct spelling and extend the rant.

[stlsaxman]

14. Is that a direct quote of the headline? if so, there's NOTHING in there

about "a plan". Of course I only read the snippage as I won't register w/ the NYWT* website. Could you post the portion that talks about the specific plan?

Wouldn't be surprised if the answer was "no- nothing there about it".

(* New York Whore Times a' la bartcop)

[Rose Siding]

22. I considered altering the headline....

AP Makes Funny Funny Joke About Bush Creating Jobs

...but board rules, you know x(

[Smirking_Chimp]

16. Please...

I work as a telephone tech in NJ and I go to all these companies to fix their phones, for the past 18 years.(since Reagan was Prez.)
For every company that is growing today, I am downsizing four or five companies. That means smaller facilities, less employees, (which makes worker productivity go up) and less jobs.

During Clinton, the company I was working for grew 3 times in size, businesses were always adding phones/employees to their systems. Clinton knew how to stimulate demand in this country, and all the repugs know is to stimulate supply. Supply-side economics has a long history of failure in world history, and we're doomed to repeat it.

Insourcing is another problem that's killing the american worker. They bring in these Mexican workers who work for $5.00 an hour with no benefits, and cheap labor conservatives pick them up in the streets in the morning, like prostitutes, and use them to do their labor. And believe me, that is going on everywhere, on construction work sites, in factories, manufacturing, and service companies.

[Zorra]

17. Understood unspoken caveat: Bu$h's plans never work. Either they

make no practical sense, or have ulterior motives other than the stated public design of the plan.

[54anickel]

18. HAhahahohoheheheee, SNARF! Tooooooo funny

Take a close look at what's been buried in the American Jobs Creation Act he signed last month. 30% Tax-break to multinationals for starters. Then look at the surveys of what companies plan to do with that savings - the last article I read on that, not one planned on directly adding jobs. Possibly indirectly through investing more in R&D and some capital expenditures, but not one is budgeting the money to create and fill positions.

Then there were the articles on his proposal to eliminate the deductions for state and local taxes AND health insurance premiums by businesses.

Bush's only f'ing plan is to rack up more deficits and financially bankrupt this country to go along with the moral bankruptcy already well underway.

F'ing idiot son of an asshole!!!

[Strelnikov_]

20. Problem Is, We Need 1.8 M/yr. To Keep Up With Population Growth

So, we will continue to lose ground over the next ten years. Some 'Plan To Create Jobs'.

[zann725]

23. Clearly he hasn't a clue!

n/t

[Thor_MN]

21. Is this like not having plans to invade Iraq?

I think I'm starting to catch on - everything * says is a lie or, at best, just a delusion of what he'd like to be able to do. Either that or he has f*cked up everything he has ever touched.

By my count, * has yet to create a new job - he still has a ways to go before there are as many jobs as when he stepped into the White House.

[Julius Civitatus]

24. No sh*t, Sherlock!!!

Then this from the oracle David Wyss, chief economist at Standard & Poor's in New York: "The biggest problem with deficits is you have to pay them back."

I remember a quote from Dick Cheney saying that "deficits don't matter."

Aren't you glad "the grownups are in charge"? Man, it's like Bluto from Animal House running the country.

[thecrow]

26. 1.4 million jobs \each year over the next DECADE

Anyone care to do an analysis of what effect our population growth
and new workers entering the work force will have on this estimate?

I would expect that since people are being forced to work into their 70's and the fact that young people that are 12 today will be in their 20's within the next decade that these estimates will prove to be WRONG and in fact may reflect a JOB LOSS.

Why did the NYT write this piece? Who knows!?

[WCGreen]

41. At the begining of his first term

I did an analysis that concluded he needed to creat 150,000 per month in order to maintain the current level of employment.

Given the projected population growth over the last 4 years, you would need at least 159,000 to just keep the unemploymnet rate steady...

1,908,000 new jobs per year just to keep the unemployment rate steady....

[thecrow]

59. Thank you for calculating this :)

[Greylyn58]

27. If *Shrubo Does Create Any New Jobs

they won't be new as they will just be replacing the ones he lost during his first "reign of terror".

I'd love to know who they are talking to because we're getting two different economy messages.

Just today there was another thread on here talking about how the US might soon be suffering an inflation problem with the cost rates of oil, food, and other necessities rising steadily over the past year and a half.

Now this story of how things are beginning to look good and new jobs will be coming....God these people need to get their stories start.

So which is it guys???

:eyes:

[ScrewyRabbit]

28. Bush's plan: "Would you like to super-size those fries?"

nt

[Deja Q]

29. The economy was originally agriculture. Then it became

a manufacturing economy. Then a service economy.

And now it will become a military economy.

well, if it pays well enough...

[The Wielding Truth]

58. Can you believe I had two unrelated Repubs tell me." At least the war

will help the economy." It made me sick and I said you can't be serious? You would rather see people die than just find a good economic plan? They just looked at me like I was from outer space. What is wrong with this country.This time any monetary gains war would provide would go to contractors who are buying their supplies now from China, India, and other low labor cost countries. US is losing more than our troops.If our national debt continues to rise and we are no longer seeing any return,who will we be accountable too? Who are we borrowing from?

[TexasBushwhacker]

30. And will this make up for the ADDITIONAL 20K H-1B's per year

They just slid that in to the $388 Billion appropriations bill that Congress passed. Yeah, the same bill that slid in a provision making it easier for doctors, hospitals, and clinics to refuse to provide abortions.

[AtTheEndOfTheDay]

31. I thought maybe he was hiring

help down at the pig farm.

[msgadget]

32. We need a complete study of health care inflation

and to limit this type of language from persisting. Tort reform will not instantly bring down insurance premiums and deregulating insurance companies further will allow more of us to be denied coverage. Anyone know of a site or author with a different explanation for the outrageous costs?

[Technowitch]

36. Yep! Those detention camps are gonna need LOTS of guards!

[coreystone]

37. Go to your closet or dressor drawers now... tell the textile workers....

where their jobs are.

:-(

[Elidor]

38. Woo Hoo! Bush has a plan! Someone alert the media! n/t

[leesa]

42. So how does the following statement jive with the first sentance??

``We can expect to see a mediocre job market for the next year from the perspective of workers,'' said Peter Morici, an economist and international business professor at the University of Maryland. ``And we can expect to see moderate growth in the economy and employment, but not enough to turn what is essentially a buyers' market into a sellers' market.''

[depakid]

43. Scariest four words in the English language

Bush-has-a-plan

Analysts say Bush's tax cuts helped the economy through recession and that while job creation lagged, extending them would encourage new hiring.

What analysts? The same one who said massive tax cuts would create jobs last time? The same ones who ignored the advise of most economists that federal revenue sharing was a MUCH BETTER WAY to actully stimulate the economy that tax cuts to wealthy people who wouldn't spend the money in local communities?

The faster I can get out of this culture of lies the better...

[rainbow4321]

49. Three scariest words FROM shrub....

"ON MY ORDERS...."

Cuz the last two fuckin' times he said those words, the bombings and killings began in two countries...

[high density]

44. Yo Dumbya, the tax cuts don't work.

And do they seriously think that limiting lawsuits is going to create jobs?!

Please Democrats, please submit your own job legislation or something.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

45. So, does the media actually BELIEVE

this garbage they dish out day after day?

They don't seem to be too reality-based.

[rainbow4321]

47. Always been the case w/ shrub/media

Living in TX, I can tell you this has always been the case with him and the newspeople. Back in 2000 there were a SHITload of us on AOL message boards trying to tell people around the country what he had done to TX economy, schools, environment. None of it made the news.

The friggin' news people didn't report ANYthing on his Texas record.
Basically, it is like the 2004 election but back then it was a "smaller" group of Internet people trying to get the word out. I would post some TX factoids and the response I would get from shrubites would be "oh, YEAH, where is the link??" So I would scrounge around the Net, find stuff to back up the factoids, and they would either just never respond to me or they would start with a personal attack.
The second most common thing was for them to blame shrub's problems on Ann Richards...6 yrs after she left office and they were STILL blaming shrub's regime problems on her.
The economy was so bad by the end of his regime here that a TX media person asked him "How are you going to explain all of the economy problems to the state legislature when they start to meet again in Jan. 2000?" Shrub's response "WELL, I HOPE NOT TO BE HERE".

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

52. Yep I'm here in TX too

you speak the truth.

[grease_monkey]

46. Bush Apologist Ny Times back in business

that same old liberal media

[DrZeeLit]

48. Something about "education" again? The headline made me LAUGH

out loud.

Yes, limiting awards to those who lost loved ones to heart attacks while taking Merck's wonder drug (and/or any generics) is surely going to lead us to more jobs.

I can't take much more of this.
Too sad.

[hatrack]

50. Wow! 1.4 million jobs annually! Nearly keeping up with pop. growth!

Color me unimpressed, both with this projection, and with economists in general.

[alexisfree]

51. IT's CALLED THE UNITED STATES DRAFT OF 2005

[alexisfree]

53. Send your Resume"White House, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Wahsington DC"

We should get as many people to send their resumes to The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500

[thecrow]

60. That's not a bad idea!

Maybe dangerous, but not a bad idea

[Edgewater_Joe]

54. ... and monkeys will be flying out of my butt today, too ...

Since Dear Leader didn't say BOO! about jobs during the campaign, I don't see how he's going to get over that hump.

After all, the article doesn't say he'll be creating AMERICAN jobs.

[cliss]

55. I really hate that word: job CREATION.

Bush doesn't create anything, except disasters and destruction in everything he touches.

He can't create jobs. Jobs have to come from somewhere. It's usually an employer who decides to hire more people, or a company start-up.

He's bankrupting this country by all the insane military spending. That does not help companies.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

56. Sure he does...Cut student loans and grants

and get them to join the armed forces so they can afford college.

Bastard!

[KlatooBNikto]

61. Here is another piece of wisdom from Cal Coolidge:

When more and more people are out of work, unemployment results.
Looks like dumbness is a mandatory qualification for being President.
( Probably more accurate to say a Republican President).