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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:41 PM
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Reid brings quiet style to loud post
"Senate minority leader rejects talk of charisma gap"

...snip

WASHINGTON -- Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., met last weekend with President Clinton, seeking advice as he prepared to take over as the Democratic Party's leader in the U.S. Senate.

In the course of their conversation, Clinton turned to a question that was being raised about Reid in the media: whether his low-profile public personality would suit the demands of the high-profile job he was about to inherit.

"Let me tell you," Clinton said. "Don't change a thing. Your strength is who you are, not who you should be."

...more

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2004/Nov-21-Sun-2004/news/25310145.html
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joelogan Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:44 PM
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1. Aww...heartfelt advice from one DINO to another
how touching! Two rightwingers having a heart to heart.
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:55 PM
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5. What do you mean by your post? Are you calling
Reid and Clinton "rightwingers"? If so, please tell me why? Just curious.
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joelogan Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:03 PM
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8. Umm....because they favor neoliberal economic policies?

Is there any other really important criteria? Or are the really important criteria of rightwing vs leftwing issues like gay marriage rights?


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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:32 PM
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9. CHOICE IS NOT A SMALL THING, DUDE. $ AIN'T EVERYTHING
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makhno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:39 PM
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10. $ are everything...
...when you have millions of children living in poverty and millions of adults beginning lives as debtor slaves with tens of thousands of dollars in student loans. If the Democratic party were truly serious about differentiating itself on cross-cultural, cross-state issues, it would start playing the class card.

Protection from the depredations of the oligarchy is definitely one issue an anti-choice, homophobic evangelical can easily agree with a pro-choice, atheist liberal.
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joelogan Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:56 PM
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14. Most political activists (both Dem & GOP) are comfortable in life
and so these economic concerns of the poor are outside their circle of concerns. THey care a lot more about gay rights, abortion, environmentalism. THe things that affect their circle of friends. And they usually make a pretty good living or they inherited money. So they look unfavorably on candidates that are want to really raise tax rates to return to progressive taxation of the past, when the millionaires had to fork over the money. THey are afraid they would lose money themselves.
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joelogan Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:40 PM
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11. Round and round she goes! Where she stops nobody knows!
Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 01:51 PM by joelogan
Right you are! Instead of focusing on all those nasty filthy dollars, keep your eyes on other issues, like....ABORTION, and now RACE (they are raping your virginal daughter!), and now AFFIRMATIVE ACTION (they are stealing your jobs!), and now ILLEGAL ALIENS (they are raping your virginal daughter!), and now GAY MARRIAGE (the gays are turning your son gay!), and now ELECTRONIC VOTING (they are raping your virginal election!)....

Keep your eyes on my hands! Which shell is the pea under?!

Round and round she goes! Where she stops nobody knows!

Pay no mind to the man behind the curtain!




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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:49 PM
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2. In other news, CEOs nationwide cream in their pants. -nt-
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:51 PM
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3. HAHA!!!
:headbang:
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:52 PM
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4. Oh no! We're doomed with this hack at the helm!
He is an insider whored out hack:

They note he accumulated power in Washington by working as a cagey insider for most of his 22 years there.

He is a DINO:

"Democrats missed opportunities to explain their positions to Middle America and Harry can do that," McCullough said. "What they don't need is somebody with fiery rhetoric."

And he is dull:

"Here is a worry," McCarthy said. "If the broadcast media is not happy with his performance, they will find other people to go to. He could be overshadowed by flashier members of his party. That would be unfortunate.

Thank you for confirming my suspicions. DLC is still calling the shots, doing the antithesis of what we want them to do. Fuckers.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:01 PM
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6. Yes, we want to be the "boring" party.
That way, maybe more people will want to vote for us.:eyes:
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:04 PM
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12. I think the DLC is more than calling the shots these days.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:02 PM
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7. When Reid & Daschle Would Do Floor Exchanges
it was like a badly scripted comic skit.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:05 PM
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13. Reid did such a good job on the vote yesterday which opened
the door to weakening Roe V Wade

The democrats in congress have no integrity

when you have feinstein, shummar and Hillary Clinton vote for this piece of crap so they can go have their thanksgiving dinner, tells me that either we need to throw out the following democrats in this list, or start a new party:

Grouped By Vote Position YEAs ---65
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO)
Breaux (D-LA)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Chafee (R-RI)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dayton (D-MN)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Fitzgerald (R-IL)
Frist (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inouye (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lott (R-MS)
McConnell (R-KY)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Miller (D-GA)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nickles (R-OK)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reid (D-NV)
Roberts (R-KS)
Santorum (R-PA)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
Wyden (D-OR)
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Barkley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 03:06 PM
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15. Changing Reid for Daschle is like changing deck seats on the Titanic
Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 03:07 PM by Barkley
Look for the Dems to lose seats in 2006.

The accommdationist/ appeasement approach doesn't work with Repugs.

Why are they being quiet and nice?

Stupid white men!
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 03:09 PM
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16. because no matter how much the dems kiss their butts
the Repukes still have the long knives out behind their backs, they will stop at no less than full control of everything!
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:17 PM
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17. Wow, some vibrant, interesting replies....
I LIKE 'EM!! Since black tuesday, I'm noticing more poor/poverty...."hey, where's my job,dude" posts. I say thank goodness!

There are more people in America living life hand to mouth than there are people living in the "comfort zone". It's way past time these things get dragged out from the closet into the light of day.

I won't vote for anyone who does not address these issues....NO moderate/centrist, Bourgeoisie pandering Dems for me ever again!

I took a little detour from mainline politics and went looking into the poverty/underclass/under-employed/NAFTA related problems..........there are mountains of info on this subject that is kept off the "front burner". We can't have that nasty little problem clouding up our shiny new political agenda.

Face it, we live in a racist, sexist, and classist society. It's a dirty little secret. Democrats USED to be for the "people", for labor, for the down trodden while inclusive of ALL the citizen's needs. Dems and some moderate republican's used to work to help alleviate the suffering and struggled to even out the playing field so everyone had a even chance to live out their lives without worrying where their next meal was coming from. Dems used to be the party of compassion, for the most part...... The Dems today (except for the likes of Kucinich) have gone elitist; jumping on the "accumulation of wealth bandwagon"..

Dems have allowed the far right (Norquist etc) to set the agenda for all America: "pull yourself up by your own bootstraps", "they're poor because they're lazy", "outsourcing is good""taxation is evil""big government is evil"..shit!
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:56 PM
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18. When criminals are stealing my country, I prefer LOUD, thank you.
Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 04:58 PM by patsified
"Pardon me, you shouldn't be stealing that, sir. Excuse me, sir? Sir? Please don't take that. Please?"

Yes, let's be polite and not raise our voices too much. Someone might
FUCKING HEAR US.



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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 05:21 PM
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19. Right! eom
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