Reply #35: "Taking money out" and "cutting money going in" mean the same god damn thing. [View All]

[phleshdef]

In either even, neither scenario is taking place in regard to the payroll tax cut.

As for your point about promises, you can say that about any fucking thing. Thats a non-argument. Even if we raised the cap and made social security solvent for the next 50-75 years, you are still only relying on a promise by government to maintain the good faith of the program and start paying you benefits once you retire. Its still all nothing more than just a promise that a "bad" government could screw with anytime the dynamics are in place for them to do so. Thats a cop out attempt at an argument if there ever was one.