Reply #55: And the footsoldiers actually doing the "evil things" are generally... [View All]

[TheMadMonk]

...ordinary people like you and I.

Read up on the Stanford Prison Experiment, the Milgram Experiment and the McDonalds (among other similar businesses) strip search hoax calls.

TWO THIRDS of all people WILL automatically defer to the voice of Authority EVEN WHEN THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE BEING TOLD TO DO IS BOTH MORALLY AND LEGALLY WRONG.

And a similar number will, when given opportunity and no checks, follow baby steps of corruption into complete depravity. Abu Grahib DID NOT HAPPEN, because Lindy England & Co. were ORDERED to do those things. Abu Grahib happened because NO ONE STOPPED THEM from meting out the first small humiliations and because, no one stopped the small day by day, week by week incremental ramping up of those humiliations, until the photos finally emerged.

And given that the above mentioned experiments and hoax revolve around exactly the same psychological nexus as MKULTRA, and this knowledge all dates back to the 50s and 60s (not to mention that it has been empirical knowlege among tortuers and drill seargants for centuries (if not millenia)) it is absolutely impossible to believe that Abu Grahib was just as case of "a few bad apples". While it is perfectly possible and almost absolutely certain that no orders ever given to abuse prisoners, EXACTLY THE SAME RESULTS can be had, simply by allowing those placed in the position of prison guard to have their head WITHOUT OVERSIGHT.

The same psychology applies to street gangs, kids in the playground and toxic workplaces.

And like it or lump it, the same psycology applies to you and I. I was absolutely horrified by the way the majority of people here laid into Lindy England and Co, I said so at the time and was abused for my efforts.

So this time let me be "amused" by the enormous majority here who NOW swear black and blue that twenty/thirty years ago they NEVER looked upon "well built" but obviously underage girls with a certain prurient interest, even if no intent.

Let me smirk knowingly at those who declare with absolute convition that THEY would NEVER participate in something like Abu Grahib. And let me remind them of the kid(s) they jeered at (or worse) back in primary/middle school with their peers for the crime of being somehow different.

Two out of three of us HAVE shouted something hurtful out a bus window; laughed at the (tripped) geek measuring his length with an armload of books strewn down the corridoor; participated in frat/apprentice hazing; etc., etc.

And of the one in three who DIDN'T: How many of you actually spoke up when the bullies were giving effeminate boys "swirlies"/"royal flushes" at school and boasting about it afterwards? How many of you TODAY will front up to a supervisor abusing a co-worker or even report that supervisor to their superiors?

Until it becomes common knowledge to the 2/3 (and fully accepted by them) that they are vulnerable to "the voice of authority" this shit will keep happening.