Reply #17: I have educated myself, I thought that I sufficiently demonstrated that in my earlier post [View All]

[MadHound]

You know, the one where I gave you the Senate definition of the bill. Here, let me repeat it for you again:

A "Cadillac" plan, as defined in the Senate version of the bill, is a plan where the total premium paid into the emmployee's insurance plan by both the employer and employee meets or exceeds $8,500/year.

That is the reality of this Senate version, you can go look it up for yourself if you want:

<http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c111:5:./temp/~c111gpvR2Q:e2104617:>

This is not helping the middle class. Again, my own personal example, I'm a teacher. As part of the benefits paid out to me, again, in lieu of getting decent pay, my union negotiated insurance plan is a fairly decent one, and yes, the total amount of money paid into it by my employer and myself is over the $8,500 limit. Thus I will have to pay out over $1,000/year in taxes on this decent, not extravagant, decent insurance plan, coming out of my rather modest salary.

I simply can't afford that, nor can other teachers or most union members.

So please, now that I've backed up my assertions (with the actual bill mind you), tell me and the OP how we're lying. Back up your hot air with actual facts, no just simple knee jerk assertions on your part.