Reply #76: What I find interesting about this here thread... [View All]

[BigBluenoser]

Is how much it reads like some others I've read on boards of a far different political persuasion.

Buy only american, reduce your taxable income, stop propping up the banks, stop spending money, stop being materialistic, stop outsourcing etc., stop watching football and DO SOMETHING. Yup they wanna do it for due to different ideological beliefs, but they wanna do it. Heck, a lot (most?) of the homesteader movement are flat earth types but they end up doing the same things as others do for other reasons and a ton of them do it "organically" (or try).

If you wanna get stuff done in America you need to find a way to get folks together without worrying about their "holistic ideology" and just worry about those few things that your organization wants to get done/change. Consider it to be post-bi-partisanship, circumvent both parties because they are just too damned reified and do nothing but divide. You can't convince a Republican of a Democrat position if you fall into framing it as a left / right issue. Just leave ideology out of it, and think of lots of good reasons for doing things, and make sure you don't fall into the language traps of either side's vocabulary. It don't hurt to try.

Or the politically active/interested net based pseudo intelligentsia of both parties can scream at each other, view them as The Great Satan, and masturbate about a shooting war/people's revolution/riots in the streets/burning down wall street etc. Fuck the parties, fuck the ideology and take the people.