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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 04:59 AM
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95. Glad I could be of service. :) Your post completely proves my point.
Edited on Fri Nov-06-09 05:09 AM by BzaDem
You talk about Single Payer, as if it actually had some remote chance of passing this Congress.

This is on the very same day that Congressmen Kucinich and Conyers said the following:

"Many progressives in Congress, ourselves included, feel that calling for a vote tomorrow for single payer would be tantamount to driving the movement over a cliff. The thrill of the vote would disappear quickly when the result would be characterized not as a new beginning for single payer but as an end."

So what is it? Are Kucinich and Conyers corporatists? Are they simply mistaken about Congress when they think that it is an "immutable force of nature?" Come on out and say it.

After all, saying such would be a much more intelligent thing to say than this gem:

"That crap that goes on in Congress is not 'reality'"

Really? That's funny. To me, it sounds like the crap that goes on in Congress is reality by definition. If it weren't reality, it wouldn't be "going on." Just because it is a "sham of what it was intended to be" does not make it any less of a reality.

That is what you and people like you don't understand. You make no distinction between what you want and what you are going to get. None. You think we are going to get Single Payer just because Single Payer is a great policy. You don't understand (or at least don't act like you understand) the concept of a policy being a) great, and b) not achievable at a given time. You whine about corrupt elected officials making bad law, as if it is possible to eliminate corruption or make law perfect. You think you (as a non-elected official) can just "fight" for a policy and then actually get it, because you "fought."

In the end, we are going to pass a bill. It is going to pass whether you like it or not. It will pass not because of you but despite you. It is going to end up being such a great policy (originally and as amended in the future) that over the long term, many of the Republicans that vote against it will come to regret that vote for the rest of their lives, just like many still living today regret voting against Medicare (and others who aren't living today regretted voting against the extremely limited and incremental original Social Security bill). People like you who claim that insuring 96% of Americans is somehow "bad law" will wish that you could take down that permanent record of your opposition to it.

I will continue exposing farcical bullshit when I see it, without particularly caring whether or not you feel that it is "redundant" or "repetitive." Have a nice day. :)
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