Sam Seder nails it. It doesn't matter if Obama is on "our side" or not. [View All]

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If you've got about 8 minutes, watch all of http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x525590">this video, hosted at DU.

If you don't have 8 minutes, skip to about 4 minutes, 10 seconds into the video linked above, where Cenk Uygur asks Sam Seder and Steve Karnaki whether President Obama is negotiating from a position of weakness too much, whether it's foreign policy or internally?

If you've got 90 seconds to spare, watch that. This is an attempt at a transcript of what Seder says but it's worth checking out the video, whole or in part.

"Is this a quesiton of him compromising too much or at the end of the day, is this his agenda, and he actually is playing this 11, uh, 14-dimensionsional chess, it's just that we don't realize that's his agenda. I mean, who knows? And ultimately from a Progressive point of view, at the end of the day it's starting not to matter.

I mean, at one point Progressives are going to pivot from trying to convince Obama from doing what Obama feels is right, despite himself, to "Obama doesn't, isn't necessarily on our side, regardless of what we may have thought and we've got to actually start to make a design, a plan, to force him to do what we want with the presumption that it's not what he wants to do."

Sam's absolutely right IMO. It's starting not to matter if he's a sellout or it's 14 dimensional chess. People are hitting the point where they don't give a shit anymore, they just know they aren't seeing things getting done they want done and they're starting to look at ways to force him to do them.

PB