Reply #3: How about the Ottoman's [View All]

[Igel]

repressing the first Wahhabi uprising in the 1700s?

They've also done their fair share of oppressing non-Muslims, and of their own poor. Seek documents, not modern histories put out by the winners, or historians at least as concerned about image as facts.

People have said that Xian people fighting each other for centuries. I saw prove it! And the idea that they oppressed anybody ... poppycock. All the dead ... from bad beef. And Muslims.

In other words, again, seek documnents, not modern histories put out by the winners, or historians at least as concerned about image as facts.

Esp. when it runs contrary to what the interpretion in a religious framework seems to claim and require. We had this fight in the west decades back.

There's a Russian proverb: The devil isn't as black as they paint him. But it goes in reverse, too: Invariably the perfect and the good aren't as pure as they're painted.