Reply #1: It was first abused by the GOP [View All]

[PATRICK]

right after WWII to mis-characterize communism (communo-fascists?) and divert unwelcome attention to their collusion(ideological and financial) with Germany before Pearl Harbor(and somewhat after, hard to stop the money flow you know).

Getting it both ways means when someone else gets into the game, suddenly the "rules" appear. They merely regard that unwelcome intrusion of exploitation of the "unpopularity" of one discredited hardline RW movement by again using the label against the people trying to correctly apply it to another hardline RW movement. And still, against anyone they want to wage "world war" against.

We talk about context and accuracy. We are tempted to lob the grenades because they actually hurt more, truth be told. We do not focus these attempts or organize or even support this usage. the other side? SOP.

You are right but it will not stop. Still, the mighty myth we should be trying to dismantle is the specificity of the evil relegated to historic 20th century fascism. It is convenient. It is an ongoing struggle really in the 21st century. The term is a real hammer against a foe. But there is a context both for the forms of tyranny and enslavement and aggression and for the battle of words.

You start losing people with the "signs of fascism". The jingoism works fastest for immediate relief from anger. "No you are, but what am I" can just keep escalating. The winner of that game is always rigged to be the fascist leaners and actual fascists. Time though is making the reality of the term solidly sink in with most Americans, generally very accurately considering the resistance to truth trumpeted from above. Time is also running out parallel to long term success while more actual power is being seized and fortified.

These are old evils. Historic throwbacks. It is more than just aligning a real insult, a proved modern villain like Hitler, alongside W and company. You have to value the freedoms and values lost, how they are illegally lost and to whose benefit and endangerment. You do not need to appropriate the term. You do have to continue shooting down the juggernaut of lies that always does. If you do use the term, use it as a close razor, not a blindly thrown rock. There are Nazi ties to various despicable elements, Bushes, terrorists, even Israelis making useful accommodations to continuing RW sympathetic Anti-Semites. They all work together while we argue about niceties and methods.

Mainly you have to judge by results and the fact is, regardless of "fascist"" credentials the corporate
RW hawks are producing step by step all the results of Nazi Germany using many of the same methods. This movement predates Nazi Germany by decades specifically, perhaps from the downfall of monarchy and the drive for new business elites(at first headed by allying in mutual interest to bungling Emperors and Kings). Each side tries to justify itself by using the same words often used different ways at different times. We win the truth battle on points? What are the results. Who is left to empower the truth anyway?