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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 04:24 PM
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This was from a post that I made discussing problems with Hillary and Lieberman.

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Just to let you know, I feel that these two Democrats represent exactly what is wrong with the Democratic Party, Hillary and Lieberman. I have decided that I wouldn’t support them for my city council, let alone senator or president. Here is what I am seeing time after time after time online:



- Posturing on important issues that make no decisions and give no real position.

o Example: Iraq war, not really for or against or anything in between. Just muck and a vote for the war in 2002.

- Taking sides on the right of center on non-important fluff issues to make them look more Republican.

o Video Games: They are blaming all of society’s problems on video games. But instead of suggesting programs to help society, they want to censor video games. For example, they are more concerned with zombies eating each other in a fantasy video game than with speaking out against a REAL war or REAL death in Pakistan, New Orleans, Iraq, or any number of places in REALITY. By the way, video games ALREADY have a rating system MORE sever than movies that prevent children from buying violent or other problem video games, and after that, the PARENT needs to make sure they are PARENTING.

o Flag Burning: Hillary just co-sponsored a bill to make flag-burning illegal. While I understand the concern, the problem is that it contradicts her own views on not supporting a constitutional amendment banning flag-burning. Either the constitution already allows for them to outlaw flag-burning or it doesn’t. The idea of co-sponsoring a bill that tries to make something illegal that you don’t believe is able to be made illegal is insanity. Or it is political posturing and I am woefully tired of that.



These are the kind of Democrats that I am proud of:



John Murtha – Offered an Iraq exit plan that calls for “phased redeployment” of troops out of Iraq in 6 months to a year. While Republicans are calling this a “cut and run” strategy, if you actually read the bill, it is effectively a regional security force placed in surrounding friendly countries that can be called into Iraq at the first sign of trouble. Troops will be withdrawn from Iraq while allowing the US to protect its interests in the region and protecting against the Iraqi government falling. I think this is a pretty good plan myself. If not after the elections in Iraq, then when will we ever leave? Never, and that is the way Dick Cheney and Halliburton want it.



Dennis Kucinich – I agree with him on just about everything. (not everything though, but just about) As of right now, he would be my choice for President in 2008.



Russ Feingold – He will probably filibuster the renewal of the Patriot Act which even by Bush’s own advisors has been called into question as violating the constitution of what extreme powers the President can have over citizens. Such as keeping someone, anyone, forever in jail without ever charging them with a crime. By the way that is one of the big reasons for the American Revolution was the King’s power in Britain to do just that, hence why the founding fathers put that in the constitution. There are many, many other problems with the Patriot Act, for example, they aren’t even allowed to say what is in it. We don’t even know what the law is. This kind of secrecy in government is open door for corruption and misuse against the people.





There are many more Democrats that I am happy with right now, but I feel like the party needs to be purged of the purely political and replaced with high thinkers and people who don’t position themselves on everything looking to make a few more points at the polls. So far, I think the party is already much better off than in 2004. The Republican party seems to be overcome with corruption right now. The Democrats seem to have some problems with that of their own, but the Republican Party needs to be completely overhauled. Just read that as many as 60 Republican congressmen may be involved in the Abramoff scandal, including already indicted on a separate charge, Tom DeLay. Duke Cunningham just resigned and is going to jail for a while. It seems that his scandal could go further too. At first it seemed like an isolated incident, but there is evidence that the contracts he gave to the defense contractors may have caused the Republican Party to be able to funnel money from taxpayers directly into the party’s re-election campaigns in 2004. I also feel like this is what is happening in Iraq since the beginning. Oil is nice, but the main problem is that all the taxpayer money for the war is being funneled directly to companies owned by top Republicans. They are making hundreds of Billions of dollars from taxpayer money.



I will NOT support Hillary Clinton, if she runs, in 2008 and I hope she looses the Democratic Senate Primary in 2006 to a Democrat who is worth voting for. The same thing goes for Lieberman.

Maybe I will change my mind, but I don't do that very often.

Thanks for reading,
jsamuel
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