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[Two Americas]

Even with Obama very clearly going more and more to the right, even after the crap with LIEberman, here are people who want to be seen as soooo liberal, and soooo progressive, supporting Obama fullbore.

They want right wing politics, with a thin veneer of feel-good liberal causes. They can't say that, and that is why we can't get a straight answer out of them, and why they go through so many bizarre convolutions to justify their support.

I just don't get it.

We can't get it, because they are lying.

What does it take?

Understanding that there is a small but very powerful, domineering and vocal minority of people among the activists who are not telling the truth and who are trying to blur the issues, create a continual uproar, confuse and divide people and silence the true voice of the party and the people. Expose them, and keep telling the truth to the rest of the people.

What didn't people learn from LIEberman?

What didn't people learn from the whole DLC mess?

Almost everyone - 90% of us - learned what we needed to learn from that. The 10% making all of the noise wants to move the party to the right and to deny the other 90% a voice.

Every time I see one more piece of evidence of what Obama will do to this country, I get more and more down.

For the well-off upscale and profoundly conservative Democrats, they would rather be right than win - even though they accuse us of that. They would rather lose than give us a seat at the table. They would rather make "liberal" statements and sneer at and confront the other side than make practical political progress. Electing a Black president - or actually running a Black man and losing - is the sort of statement that people who are not hurting enjoy making. They are not interested in real change, they just want to be right and most of their opposition to the Republicans is actually aristocratic condescension and superiority. They hate the poor people, and the blue collar working people, as much as they hate the Republicans.

It seems like mass hypnosis to me.

Not really hypnosis - people are being lied to - cleverly, incessantly, aggressively.

There is a small minority of people controlling the Democratic party who are sabotaging the party, and who are fighting for the party to represent them - the upper 10% and well-off liberals - and not the other 90% of the people. That battle for the heart and soul of the Democratic party is more important then the fight against the Republicans, because that conservative faction in the Democratic party is what is causing the Republicans to win.

Lying and bullying are what we are up against. Call people on their lies - calmly and rationally - and resist the bullying - calmly but firmly. For each one of us, there are thousands of people who feel the same way that we do, but who have been bullied and intimidated into silence.