Reply #16: Let's not cloud the issue with the truth! [View All]

[ElQueso]

This response is typical of people who try to refute real scientific evidence.

You say that Kooistra drew the conclusions he did from one guy visiting 3 of the 1221 weather stations to conclude that the weather stations are hopelessly flawed.

Read it again, dude. AFTER Watts (the meteorologist that you so quickly blow off) visited three sites himself, he organized a group called the Surface Stations Project who reviewed 70% (a huge number, scientifically valid) of the 1221 stations and found they found that 89% of the stations were not set up in accordance with the USHCN own standards. In many cases the temperature stations were set up close to heat sources for crying out loud!

Also, the thing about white-washed paint versus latex enamel. I wonder if you really understand how science is done? Watts (and again, not Kooistra) bought three stations to test. One he left plain wood (as a control), the other he white-washed (meticulously re-creating the formula of whitewash as it was used earlier in the century) and the other he used latex paint, which is the current standard. There was .3 maximum to .8 minimum emperature differences between the whitewashed and the latex versions. That's actual science dude!

How do you explain that NO MODEL ever created by climate change advocate "scientists" has EVER made an accurate prediction of temperature changes? Science says "make a prediction, test it, and if the tests confirm the prediction, it's possible that the theory closely models reality." Climate change scientists have never managed to make a theory that is verifiable.

But let's not let the facts get in the way of the truth, please!

As Kooistra aptly states at the end of his Analog article:

"What’s really ironic is that, if someone claims to see a flying saucer, which hurts no one and costs nothing, debunkers come out in force. But let a former vice-president claim environmental apocalypse is upon us, and suddenly we’re appropriating billions and changing our lifestyles."