Reply #36: The natural state [View All]

[tama]

Seekers make an awfull fuzz about it and so do Jiddu and UG, not to mention Jesus and Gautama and all the "messianic" teachers and gurus. The hopes projected at them, the messianic expectations. Why did they and do they allow such foolishness to happen? Giving rise to organized religions and power hierarchies, to dogmatism without empirical experience. Not very responsible behaviour, how stupid shamans/natural states, Jesus and Gautama and the likes.

Natural state does not automatically make some one wiser and morally better or more intelligent and more responsible. Very civilized teachers like Gautama and Jesus and Jiddu and UG don't know how to hunt and gather and garden sustainably to keep themselves fed and clothed, all they know is to speak big words and be big men that cause inferiority complex in others so that others keep the clothed and fed. They live in unsustainable cultures dominated by few annual hay plants - wheat, barley, rice - and share the short sighted stupidity and greed of those hay plants. They are beggars uplifted into hierarchic bosses or trophy animals.

Those beggar-boss kinds of natural states/shamanhoods are exceptions, not the rule. How many of !Kung and Pirahã, for example, live in the natural state of "kundalini"? 30-100% percent? Don't really know, does not really matter. What matters is that they don't go around bossing others and expecting others to feed them.

The problem is, we don't really know how to grow annual hay plants sustainably and without creating hierarchic societies. We have no idea, it's a horticultural mystery. I know of only one enlightened guru or natural state that has given this tought and showed that rice can be grown naturally. The do-nothing method of Wasanobu Fukuoka, the only enlightened guru worth his salt in cultures worshipping annual hay plants.

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