Reply #12: Okay - you have a thick skin when it comes to names Johnny -good [View All]

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for you.

I think what boils my blood is that we all know the David Frum is a neocon. We all know that they want control over Canada and have been pressuring the country through CEOs.

Of course Canada and the USA will be more fully integrated. That will just happen. As to a commercial union.. I hope not - but again..if it happens everywhere... we really do not have a choice.

What got me so up in arms is the propaganda in Frum's piece. The obvious intent is to state that the election will not be on health care, it will be on the 'fear' of David Frum's choice.

You know what that is about don't you? The Liberals NDP Block will win when it concerns health care and the neocon Harper conservatives will loose. If Canadians vote on who best they think can lead the country into the world this century while maintaining and protecting our beloved programs the best... that is what any election these days should be about.

And the Harper Neocons cannot win that one. The Fraser Institute and Mike Harris and Manning just came out with a 5 point neocon plan for Canada and health care (and privatizing it) is the first thing on the agenda. Harper cannot win if the question is health care. The cat is out of the bad. We know big pharma in the USA hates universal health care because then the monopoly power is with the governments to get better deals on drugs and to actually nip chronic illness in the bud (called preventive health care) which Pharmacorps hate because who is going to buy the chronic pills for people if they all lead healthier lives? Also medicare keeps costs down and is fair. It is a very, very empathetic program (making sure the poor have as excellent health care for their kids as the middle class or rich do).

So David Frum's answer? To scare the Canadian left with a little (watch out for the USA takeover of Canada!). Fear rises to the top and people who are not pragmatic about integration with the USA (why it has been going on for 100 years) will feel a great deal a fear. And two parts of the left will be separated. And fewer Canadians will be voting on health care. And serious divisions will occur between the left pragmatists and the left people afraid of the USA. And they will dislike each other. And then they may not form a coalition. Or the talk during the election will not be so much about medicare.

So David Frum who is nothing but a Karl Rove bum-boy.. tries to reframe our election for us? Because they know that as long as the discussion is about anything other than health care in the future..(or SS in general and how they can be protected in a risky world) will not unify Canadians like they always are to vote socially liberal on social issues.

I got mad for having such propaganda thrown on my doorstep. If you are going to show the propaganda of others... please don't fall for it?


The election will be about health care. David Frum is nothing. He speaks for nobody. And his propaganda and attempt to 'reframe' the Canadian election is actually foreign propaganda (I think it may be illegal actually - but am not so sure). He & his ilk are intent on dividing the liberal core of Canadians.

Because our example continues to make them look really, really bad.