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Oregon Mail-in Ballots & Hand-Recount System  vs.  New York Lever System: 2000-2008

TruthIsAll     source: richardcharnin.com/OregonVsNYVoting.htm

March 29, 2010

Oregon defied the many battleground and heavily Democratic states in which Bush increased recorded vote share from 2000. Oregon's 13.6% exit poll discrepancy in 1992 and 10.2% uncounted vote rate in 1996 may have had something to do with the 1998 decision to switch to mail-in ballots. Oregon’s recorded vote-count shares closely approximated the National True Vote in 2000, 2004 and 2008. Was it because the voting-and-recounts were done exclusively by mail-and-hand and not by machine?
 






2004


 
2004
 
2000

 
2004

'Battleground state' OREGON

OR PHONE SURVEY Share (±3.2% MoE)
Kerry
52.2
Bush
46.3
 
 
Margin
+5.9
 
 
 
OR VOTE-COUNT Share (%)
Kerry
51.35
Bush
47.19
 
 
Margin
+4.16
Swing
 
Gore
46.96
Bush
46.52
Nader
5.04
 
+0.44
+3.7%
 
 
 DISCREPANCY (%)
 Margin Δ
PhoneSurvey - VoteCount
+1.74%
'+' = share-margin shift to Bush
< MoE

Oregon Voting System Advantages
  • Vote exclusively by mail-in ballots: '04=86.5% '08=85.7%
  • Each general election: post-election handcount of random-selected precincts
  • Partial/full hand-recounts check optical scanner tallies
  • "No recount conducted in Oregon has ever turned up evidence that a tally machine failed to correctly count votes. A full recount is the ultimate test and with each election we always have at least one or two."

Oregon Facts:
  • Gore 2000:
    .44% OR VoteCount margin VERY NEAR .52% National
  • Kerry 2004:
    4.2% OR VoteCount margin was a NEAR MATCH to 5% unadjusted State Exit Poll Aggregate. Compare to Kerry -2.5% National Recorded Vote-Count margin deficit
  • Obama 2008:
    56.7% OR VoteCount share a NEAR MATCH to 57.1% OR TrueVote model. Compare 52.9% National Recorded share vs his 58.0% National TrueVote model
 

Solid 'Democratic state' NEW YORK

NY EXIT POLL Share (± 2-3% MoE)
Kerry
64.5
Bush
34.0
 
 
Margin
+30.5
 
 
 
NY VOTE-COUNT Share (%)
Kerry
58.37
Bush
40.08
Nader
1.35
Margin
+18.29
Swing
 
Gore
60.21
Bush
35.23
Nader
3.58
 
+24.98
-6.7%
 
 
 DISCREPANCY ( WPD ) (%)
 Margin Δ
ExitPoll - VoteCount
+12.2 %
'+' = share-margin shift to Bush
>2 x MoE

New York Voting System Vulnerabilities:
  • Defective levers in the most democratic precincts – undercount votes
  • Too few levers in Democratic precincts – long lines
  • Pre-set levers stuck on Bush – discourage voters
  • Late provisional and absentee paper ballots not counted on Election Day
  • Lever totals input to PROGRAMMABLE central tabulators
  • No hand recounts – there are no paper ballots to count (except for late votes)

New York Facts:
  • 2000-2008:
    Democratic late (paper ballot) vote-share 7% higher than E-Day (lever) and matched the unadjusted exit polls
  • Gore 2000:
    25% recorded marg (60-35%)– 2% exitpoll discrepancy
  • Kerry 2004:
    18% recorded marg (58-40%)–12% exitpoll discrepancy
  • Obama 2008:
    27% recorded marg (63-36%)–exit polls not released

 

NATIONAL  Exit Polls  &  Recorded Vote-Counts –  Prelim NEPs  vs  Final NEPs

PRELIM NEP, 13K Random Selection  .86% MoE

Kerry
 50.8 
Bush
48.2
Nader
1.0
Margin
+2.6
 
Final NEP – IMPOSSIBLE  forced match of VoteCount
Kerry
48
Bush
51
 
 
Margin
-3.0
 
Recorded VOTE-COUNT Share (%)
Kerry
48.27
Bush
50.73
Nader
0.38
Margin
-2.46
Swing
 
Gore
48.38
Bush
47.87
Nader
2.73
 
+0.52
-3.0%
 
 
 
 DISCREPANCY (%)
 Margin Δ

 
12:22a Prelim NEP - VoteCount
+5.1 %

 
'+' = share-margin shift to Bush
3 x MoE

• If Final NEP weightings indicate a mathematically impossible number of
   returning voters, then simple logic dictates the weightings are impossible.
• Since impossible weightings were necessary to match to the official vote count,
   then the official national Recorded VOTE-COUNT must also be impossible.
• Since the vote count is impossible, then all demographic category cross tabs
   must use incorrect weights and/or vote shares to match the count.


As a battleground state, it is to be expected that Oregon closely matches the national electorate. Since it votes 100% by mail, and paper ballot precincts had the lowest (2%) exit poll discrepancies from the recorded vote-counts, we can hypothesize that Oregon closely approximates the True Vote.  This is confirmed by the following facts:

...
  • Do you believe:
    a) 
    the 2008 Oregon vote ( 56.7% ) reflected Obama’s True national share ( 58.0% ),  or

    b) 
    the national recorded vote-count share ( 52.9% ) for Obama?


    Did fraud cut Obama’s margin by 13.0 million (from 22.5 to 9.5 million)?
...
Now consider New York.

In 2000, Gore won the state by 25% (60.2–35.2%). In 2004, Kerry’s recorded vote-count margin declined to 18.3% (58.4–40.1%). But Kerry won the unadjusted exit poll by 64.5–34.0%, a 12.2% WPD. Why the sharp reversal of fortune?

Consider the largest counties in Oregon and New York, Multnomah (OR) and Kings (NY):
Gore won Kings Cty (Brooklyn)
by 74.7–15.0%.  Kerry won it by 74.2–22.8%, an  8.3% LOWER margin.

Gore won Multnomah
by 63.5–28.2%.  Kerry won it by 71.6–27.4%, an  8.9% HIGHER margin.


It’s an Urban Legend: Bush recorded vote share increased sharply from 2000 to 2004 in heavily Democratic urban areas but declined in rural locations. Except for Oregon — the ONLY 100% mail-in paper ballot and hand-recount state.

Consider that ...

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