Reply #23: Uh no... [View All]

[SaveElmer]

Perot had no effect on the outcome in either 92 or 96...exit polls clearly showed that Perot voters would have nearly split their votes between Bush and Clinton. Possibly one state would have shifted to Bush, nowhere near enough to change the outcome. He had even less effect in 1996

Hillary ran against two weak candidates. Yes this is true, and why do you think the Republicans could not find anyone stronger willing to take her on? Because they knew she would lose. Guiliani ducked a confrontation with her, and by 2006 the machine Hillary, Spitzer, and Schumer had built has nearly decimated the Republican Party in New York...

"But now she is, where half the country or more is sick of the Clintons and/or HATE Hillary. "

Wrong again, polling clearly shows Bill Clinton continues to be the most popular Democrat in the country, and Hillary's negatives are about where any general election candidate ends up...and lets be frank, Hillary is like a general election candidate having been subject to attack for 15 years...and as I have pointed out, she is polling ahead of all Republican candidates, and right now would switch between 3 and 8 previously red states...

Look here... http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=10&year=2007&base_name=how_polarizing_is_hillary

And of course the Republicans are going to attack...they would attack any candidate that we put up. As you point out they smeared Kerry into losing. Sorry, but Kerry was inept at dealing with it...Hillary clearly is not...

"'The Clintons.' Just part of your reasoning is why Hillary will not win, and why people are sick of them. They dont want a 2 for 1 deal here. In the eyes of many voters, that shows a weakness of Hillary, that she needs a co-president."

Show me any evidence this is true...in fact just the opposite is the case...most people believe Bill will be an asset to Hillary. And far from being viewed as being weak, she consistently is seen as the strongest of the candidates...

I live in Virginia...where Hillary is outpolling all Republican candidates...and I hear quite a positive buzz about her here...