Reply #11: He was pretty back door - but he comes out more and more [View All]

[Joe for Clark]

now. Like he's morphing. It is facinating to me to watch - telling.

I knew the situations in 1983 - very, very well. They are similar now. I had worked for Dad - had my accounting degree and had gone back to school (I really liked school). So it was interesting to me - you know, where does school end and real life begin - those kind of questions.

Look, dad was a director of the company at the time - he was a force in Califorina politics even - but clearly even he was a little pissant in the scheme of things.

I know enough to know - the complexity of these things are far beyond anything that will ever be public. In 1983 Pickens group took on the Mellons. I have read the accounts of it, it was a big story in school even, at the time. Trust me, what was really going on has never been reported. I know. I got to live through it. And I know - they weigh family interests a lot more than you might think. That is the only reason the fight over City ever happened.

I watch Jay, I watch him change over time. I watch Goldman dumping funds to the dems. SO I do have a reasonable hope that larger interests and we are on the same page here.

They were when FDR was president, too, I think - in a very good way.

Joe