Reply #28: Let's just sum it up then. [View All]

[Sparkly]

Rummy and the rest of the administration have been WRONG on everything from the start -- in their basic philosophy (leftover from the last time they were in power), to their cherry-picked "intel," to their "proof" of WMD and knowledge of where they were, to their "strategy" of "shock and awe," to their troop numbers despite what military brass said, to not securing munitions, to not establishing a political base from the START, to not securing borders, on and on and on and on...

And now THEY (you?) want to say WE don't understand something?

WE have moral or intellectual "confusion?"

WE just need to come around to see it all realistically?

WE are unpatriotic?

WE are disrespectful of our troops?

WE are unconcerned about the real threats of terrorism?

WE are undermining morale?

WE are undermining national security?

Do you know what Socratic Wisdom is? Basically, it's knowing what you do not know. Get some of that.

If you don't want it, I can't force it on you. The rules here permit you to stay and debate and read the REAL "other side," instead of the one you prefer to imagine. You are free to argue the points from an objective, rational, honest point of view. But if you're intent on reciting rightwing lies, sorry -- we hear enough of that.

We hear it ALL THE TIME.

So if that's all you've got, which these evil rules prevent you from posting, there's nothing new for you to say that might enlighten me -- it's been heard, read, and refuted a thousand times over as it is.

That's the fundamental difference between you and me. I read all points of view, and as a DUer, I'm among a community that accepts -- even welcomes -- disagreement and debate. As long as it's rooted in advancing truth, justice, equal rights, honesty (freedom, liberty, and all), we're all at home and at peace with disagreement.

I sense that you, however, have a more rigid, hemmed-in view of right/wrong, true/false, threatening/safe -- all based on fear. I say that for several reasons.

First, and most obviously, somebody has convinced you that our country is SO weak that we're vulnerable to an onslaught of Muslims who may impose any laws they wish upon us. Anyone who actually believes that has to be A) unaware of basic realities, and B) VERY scared as a result.

Second, it seems you're afraid to accept the truth, even when it's right up in your face. What is happening in Iraq -- and how we got to this point -- are indisputable facts. Only FEAR could cause someone to deny the obvious -- fear of being wrong, fear of losing self-respect, fear of losing others' respect, fear of letting go of something, etc...

Third, you fear contemplation of the truth. While you project onto DU a muzzle that prevents you from engaging in a debate, it's you who doesn't want to take this further. I haven't "alerted" on you, and the mods haven't yet tombstoned you -- and still, you didn't take the opportunity with your last post to state your views. You KNOW you can't last long here anyway, as an obvious rightwinger, so the notion that you're holding back due to DU rules is as silly as somebody in fear of breaking a rule on their last day of work ("What are they going to do, fire me?").

"So, you are victorious! You have triumphed! You're a genius here!"

That is YOUR cop-out.

You chose not to confront the obvious truth before your eyes. So we didn't dismiss you; you've dismissed us -- cataloguing it all neatly into "I had heard rumors of this but it's still amazing." Yes -- file it under "Must Dismiss Lest I Question Myself."

Have a nice life. :hi: