Reply #31: As have I. From Iowa City to Atlanta to LA to NYC and a couple of [View All]

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places in between including the reddest part of AZ where I am now (for the time-being), I've found most people want their government to take care of those that can't care for themselves, they want quality education for their children, they want to preserve their community assets for their communities, and they want the government to get the hell out of their private lives. IOW, they are what is traditionally a liberal society.

One of our biggest problems is the perception, and it is frequently valid, that the Democrats want to dictate too many aspects of their lives and have bought into the re:puke: propaganda that they will give them most of these things. They just want ot be able to raise their families in peace and keep what they work so hard for. They only object to taxes when they see the politiwhores of both parties wasting them. They want the liberty to decide what is best for their community, within the community, and deeply resent it when outsiders come, bearing the force of governmental violence, to force their views on them.

They are eventually accepting of new ideas when those ideas are fair and true, though it may take some time, and usually see the merits of the good ones that come along.

I don't think we are really in disagreement, except in the definition of the terms conservative and liberal, and it is not a mistake that those definitions have become amorphous and/or muddled.

Oh, and nearly everyone wants peace.