Reply #84: Great discussion people! [View All]

[vickitulsa]

I applaud you all for what we need a lot of: productive, insightful and thoughtful discussion of the most important issues we're facing right now. Brainstorming with a sense of urgency, now that we know enough facts to nail our opponents in upcoming elections, so that we are asking the right question to get us to a solution soon, developing a great and workable and durable "grand strategy" of our very own. One we can all get behind and follow through with! I LIKE this framing, EarlG! You accomplished so much by the way you summed up the dilemma in your last paragraph:

So let's stop arguing about the reality of terrorism, and start thinking about how the hell we're going to stop the Republicans in their tracks before they pull yet another fast one on America. We don't know if their plan is going to work this time, or if it's going to backfire on them badly, but the first step in making sure the latter happens is to acknowledge what's really going on here and figure out a way to deal with it.

I'm so glad to see today that my fellow DUers -- those wonderful analytical thinkers who warmed my heart to this site when I first came here about a year ago -- THOSE DUers are leading a positive rush of members here toward the ANSWER, now that we're asking the right question.

Thread after thread I'm encountering some great analytical thinking here lately (amongst the intensely emotional bickering which is really understandable and maybe necessary), and also some very fine creative thinking at work as well, as we search for that Answer we so badly need. We're at that point because overall as a group we've BEEN asking a lot of the right questions for awhile now; and believe it or not, I do see a concensus growing among virtually all DUers as to how the question should be framed. I'm convinced we couldn't get past the crux of the problem and make progress toward solving it until we got here: asking THE right question about what our problem is so we can clearly see what the Answer MUST be!

I think THE right question is: What can we DO ... to effectively complete with or otherwise gain an honest and open advantage against Republicans in the upcoming elections. The urgency is very plain to all of us here. Seems to me this place EXISTS as a result of the strong need of so many Americans to find a way to unite with others to defeat those tyrannical criminals in power before it's honestly JUST TOO LATE to spare our country from disaster....

For years we've argued and discussed, ranted and editorialized (sometimes brilliantly, I might add), informed each other to an amazing extent -- and each of us has found others right here who believe as we do, who would be willing to stand firmly beside us in unity to carry the RIGHT MESSAGE forward to all Americans from now till time to vote.

Who better to sum all this up in an articulate and incisive way than our own good EarG, too!? Well done, is what I say! Great OP, Earl ... great discussion, makes for an excellent thread and worthwhile spending of my time reading it all. :)

And btw, I just did a little research at good ole Amazon and discovered there's a bestselling book by the title Ask The Right Question -- it's that important to learn to do it well and productively.

Also changing gears a bit but related: I was led from that book's page at Amazon to a linked one, for a book called The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Days Before 9/11 (I think), by Lawrence Wright, which appears to be a real eye-opener. Interesting also to see at Amazon's site just how many books are being published these days in the U.S. that bring the truth about this criminal and dangerous administration more fully to light in all the important areas we need everyone to know about. They've been allowed to get away with their evil doings IN SECRET all this while, and that's exactly why exposing them with the Truth can be an exceedingly successful tactic on our part, is what I now believe.

No one likes to be lied to, duped, used, taken for granted and then betrayed, which is precisely what this administration has done to their very own supporters! I think that is extremely important for us to alert them to, if they haven't recognized it already on their own. No one wants more to discredit and end the power of someone they are now convinced betrayed them, right? It's the truth, so once the BushCo supporters face it, they can and will react, which would mean voting or even campaigning against those who wronged them and who are deceiving us citizens still, harming us with every breath they take in their powerful positions. They're very BUSY, these people we have good cause to be concerned about, criminals who don't care how badly they damage their own country or anyone else's country -- even the entire planet. It's all frighteningly significant, what's going on right now, brought to us every day more quickly by heedless, reckless, greedy and headstrong powermongers who've chosen the means of ultimate violence, that is, WAR for getting what they want for themselves.

I see that the importance of finding a solution truly registers with members here and has motivated a lot of people very powerfully as we talk it all over. If voters see Democrats mobilizing in a big way with Answers and Solutions that ring true for those with common sense to see what's before their own eyes, they will be won to our side. I believe it!