Reply #38: Actually, it's a HNSMW thread [View All]

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A hate needless, stupid, murderous wars thread. I really don't give one whit about all the horse race crap that gets played up prior to the elections-- the fact of the matter is, when we actually elect someone in 2008, that choice has real-world consequences and even life-and-death consequences. That choice has to be made for pretty sober reasons. With Hillary already on record as a big Iraq War supporter and now trumpeting for a conflict with Iran, we're seeing a very, uh, consequential stand-- in all the wrong ways. As I've said elsewhere, these aren't leftists and Molotov-cocktail throwing anarchists among the Dems who are angry at Hillary-- it's the rank and file who in general are infuriated about her war stands.

I was even starting to warm up to her because I thought she was finally gaining a sense of balance and good sense on Iraq, but her stances on Iran immediately dispelled those beliefs. No war on Iran unless they engage in patently and openly aggressive behavior, period (and I don't mean any evidence-less finger-pointing at a scapegoat in response to e.g. a terrorist attack), and no support for any Dem who is calling for it. This goes far beyond partisan politics here-- this is life and death, spilling of blood on a massive scale, the very precarious state of our endangered nation here. The stakes are too high to succumb to any shade of political expediency on an issue like this.