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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 11:42 AM
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25. No death experience
Still, Moody remained seated at her desk. After the explosion, there was only quiet and the stink of jet fuel, she said. Burning office fixtures created a trap — there was no obvious way out for the two women in an office where the fire’s temperature reached 1,600 degrees.
http://www.uticaod.com/news/specialreports/911anniversary/sept11/moody.htm

11/5/02 -- This long - very long - analysis of the crash at the Pentagon on 9/11/01 is highly flawed and lacking in critical and important knowledge about melting points of metals, crash dynamics, etc. etc. The melting point of aluminum is around 1220 degrees F. The fire that was generated in the Pentagon fire was well above this and easily melted any aluminum parts of the plane that were inside the building.
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11/6/02 -- My source for the aluminum of the jet melting in the Pentagon fire is the experience and training of seven years as a paid firefighter. Not only have I seen the skin of trailer homes melt away in a short-duration fire, but I have also witnessed the aluminum siding of semi-trailers melt away under low fire load and short-duration fires. It doesn’t take long for a low-intensity fire to
melt substantial amounts of aluminum.
http://www.christian-patriots.us/PentagonCrashAnalysis.html

When American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001, it penetrated the building's second story at a 45-degree angle and careened through the Pentagon's top three floors. The jet was carrying about 20,000 gallons (76000 L) of jet fuel, much of which was deposited on the roof. The fuel ignited and burned at a temperature of about 1,100 F (593 C).
http://www.professionalroofing.net/current/feature.asp

First-floor columns 5M, 5N, 3M, and 3N—located in Ring C, toward the end of the damage path—sustained thermal damage in the form of longitudinal cracks and corner spalling. Some sections of the columns appeared blackened, probably as a result of direct exposure to flame caused by partial loss of interior finishes. It took a little more than one hour of exposure to ISO 834—at a corresponding ambient temperature of about 1,740°F (950°C)—for the longitudinal cracks and corner spalling to develop in laboratory test columns. This indicates that the temperature of the fire at this location might have reached a similar level.
http://www.pubs.asce.org/ceonline/ceonline03/0203feat.html

John Yates doesn’t remember much about his trip through hell, just that everything he touched seemed to be burning: “In my mind, I hear somebody saying go out through the DMPM door,” one of the doors that led from the cubicle farm into the 4th Corridor. I knew I was going in the right direction because I could feel water. I DISTICTLY REMEMBER STANDING UP AND WALKING TO OUTWARD TOWARD THE CENTER COURTYARD.”
http://www.govexec.com/features/0902/0902s1.htm

Could your family survive a fire?
Most of us would answer yes, thinking of fire in the movies. Unfortunately, fire does not live up to these expectations. AS THRILLING AS THE IDEA OF CRASHING INTO A BURNING BUILDING TO SAVE SOMEONE MAY SOUND, IN REALITY, THIS WOULD KILL YOU IN JUST MINUTES. Since heated air rises, temperatures increase about 100 F every foot. So, at six feet up, the temperature would be 600 F. AT THESE TEMPERATURES A PERSON CAN BE INSTANTLY BURNED TO DEATH. http://ohioline.osu.edu/aex-fact/0690.html

Mind you they are talking about a piddling 600 degrees and we have it on record that the Pentagon fire was well over 1,000 degrees.
Hot enough to melt metal.
But not hot enough to BURN HAIR.

One of the articles mentioned spalling.
Remember that word.
Spalling.
We will come back to it later.

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