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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-11 10:16 AM
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24. Your interpretation of the police action bears no relation to what really happened
from the link in the OP

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Menjivar forced Gonzales into a restroom and during the next four minutes, raped her. Neither the dispatchers nor the officers at the scene knew that this was happening. The dispatchers testified that they would have immediately notified the officers if there had been any indication that Gonzales was being raped.

Megargel believed that there could be a barricaded suspect with a hostage in the Town Pump. He requested a K-9 dog team and special response team. Menjivar and Gonzales left the bathroom and Gonzales continued to obtain money from the safe. The officers had not yet announced their presence at the scene. During the event Menjivar repeatedly threatened Gonzales with death and continued to hold a knife on her.

During these events the responding officers knew there were two people in the Town Pump but never knew whether there were more than two. From time to time they could see "shadows moving" in the dark building. Dispatch informed officers that there was a transient camp near the store and that persons from the camp could be inside the store. Officers investigated another report of a person moving on foot through the area who turned out to be a jogger. Officers did not know how many perpetrators or victims were involved or how any perpetrators were armed.

Menjivar left the store at 10:28 and was immediately arrested outside. Officers then shouted commands demanding that anyone else in the store come out. The deputy with the K-9 dog gave commands for anyone inside to come out or he would release the dog. Gonzales then came out of the store barefoot and wearing a Town Pump apron. She testified that officers directed her to show her hands and to lie on the ground and that she complied. Officer Kaycee Anderson, one of the defendants, handcuffed Gonzales and performed a pat-down search during which Gonzales said that she had been raped. Anderson immediately got Gonzales to her feet and walked her to a safe location at a police car and removed the handcuffs. Anderson asked Gonzales if she needed an ambulance, and Gonzales said that she did not because she was not hurt. Anderson drove Gonzales to the hospital for treatment. Gonzales confirmed Anderson's description of these events and testified that she was on the ground in handcuffs for about 30 seconds. Neither Menjivar nor Gonzales knew that law enforcement officers were on the scene prior to leaving the store.

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The police acted properly and professionally - they did not stand around eating donuts and talking football while the victim was raped.
They did what they needed to do to secure everyone in the building and to protect themselves - and arrent the bad guy.

Is this all you guys have to justify guns everywhere all the time by everyone?? What a fucking joke.

Stupid GOP/NRA talking points fail

uber-fail

yup
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