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17. True, a very few concealed carry permit holders do misuse their weapons ...
But lets look at the statistics.

Florida publishes a monthly report on concealed carry which can be viewed at http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/stats/cw_monthly.html

Between 10/1/87 - 03/31/10 Florida issued 1,744,945 Concealed Weapons Permits and currently 709,591 are valid. Only 167 licenses have been revoked for a crime committed with a firearm after the license was issued. This wasn't 167 licenses revoked in just one year but over the entire time frame that the law has been in effect, 22 years +.

Of course, every tragic incident involving a CCW holder and a misuse of a firearm will lead to cries from those who oppose concealed carry.

There are no statistics available on how many times that a permit holder legally used his weapon to prevent a violent attack or stop a crime. Often, no shots are fired. It does happen. Here's a few recent examples:


Police: Citizen shoots man attempting to hijack Metro bus after multiple wrecks
Posted on April 20, 2010 at 6:13 PM
Updated Wednesday, Apr 21 at 6:35 AM


HOUSTON – A wild crime spree ended in gunfire Tuesday when a citizen shot a suspect who was trying to hijack a Metro bus, Houston police said.

According to HPD, it all began at about 5:30 p.m. when Henry Hankston III, 37, carjacked a person who was visiting friends at a residence in the 5200 block of Fair Green in southeast Houston.

***snip***

Hankston fled northbound on Martin Luther King. About a block away from the carjacking, he struck the first vehicle and continued driving, Torres said.

"When he got to the intersection, he hit three other vehicles until he got to the point where his vehicle was disabled, got out of that vehicle and ran up to a bus that was turning through the intersection," Torres said.

Torres said the suspect entered the bus and began assaulting the driver, in an apparent attempt to hijack the bus, until the driver of a car idling behind the bus noticed what was happening.

"This person is a licensed concealed handgun carrier. He got out of the vehicle went to the bus to try to intervene in the assault that was taking place," he said. "He did pull the suspect away from the driver and engaged in a physical confrontation with the suspect."

As the two men struggled, the gun discharged and struck the suspect in the upper abdomen, Torres said.

"He got up and went and sat in his own car which, by the way, was on fire, and waited there, shot, and he was still there when the police and paramedics got here," Torres said.

Hankston was transported to Ben Taub Hospital, where he was in surgery Tuesday night. He was reported to be in stable condition. The bus driver was also hospitalized with injuries to his face and head. His injuries were not believed to be life-threatening.

Four of the drivers whose vehicles were struck were transported with none-life-threatening injuries.
http://www.khou.com/news/LIVE-VIDEO-Police-investigate-shooting-multiple-car-wreck-91655614.html


Legal concealed weapon ruins robbery try

Posted: Apr 13, 2010 3:21 AM EDT Updated: Apr 13, 2010 1:29 PM EDT

CINCINNATI, OH (FOX19) - Cincinnati Police are investigating a shooting where it appears a robber left the scene with the victim's cell-phone in his hand, and a slug from the victim's gun in his lower abdomen.

Police say the robber ran into someone with a concealed-carry permit, and at some point the would-be victim was able to get his gun out and shoot the suspect, who took off running from the shooting scene on Rosemont Avenue south of Glenway in West Price Hill.

He dropped the permit-holder's cellular phone somewhere on a six block run to West Liberty Street just west of Manss Avenue. That is where the suspect dropped to the ground and was found suffering from a gunshot wound.

The suspect was taken to the hospital and District Three officers were given the case.

Three people have been charged in connection with the case. Troy Hammond, 21, Tremaine Hughes, 22, and Todd Hammond are all charged with aggravated robbery. Todd Hammond was the suspect who was taken to the hospital. The other two are in the Hamilton County Justice Center.
http://www.wxix.com/Global/story.asp?S=12299813


Good Samaritan Stops Bank Robbery Suspect
Updated: Tuesday, 06 Apr 2010, 8:20 PM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 06 Apr 2010, 8:20 PM EDT


DETROIT - It's time to thank a hero for stopping a suspected bank robber. The man stepped up to help protect his city.

"It's up to us as citizens to say hey, enough's enough," said Michael Farrow. "We can help out."

At 10:00 a.m. Monday, a man is accused of passing a note to a teller at the National City Bank on Woodward, and then grabbing the cash and running out the door.

Good Samartian Michael Farrow saw him running down the street and decided to get involved.

Farrow has a CCW and was carrying a gun when he told the man to stop and get down.

"He actually thought I was a police officer at the time," he said.

Police arrived seconds later, taking 49-year-old Robert Lee Chandler into custody. He is a parolee, who police say has an extensive criminal history. The suspect will face charges.
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/good-samaritan-stops-bank-robbery-suspect


Man Shoots At Teen Burglar Caught In Act
Posted: 12:16 pm EDT April 12, 2010Updated: 6:26 pm EDT April 12, 2010

DeLand, Fla. -- When a teenager tried to break into a DeLand house, he didn't count on the homeowner coming home as he was crawling through a window.

DeLand homeowner Daven Woulard opened fire on the 16-year-old he saw breaking into his house on East New Street (see map) Monday. The bullet didn’t hit the teen, but the homeowner still helped police make an arrest; the homeowner held down the suspect until the police got there.

The man was driving down the road, coming back from the store and, as the man and his wife glanced toward their yard, they saw 16-year-old Jarrett Holloman’s legs sticking out of their son’s bedroom window. The window had been smashed with a brick.

***snip***

After quickly pulling into his yard, Woulard grabbed his .44 Magnum handgun out of the car, a weapon he's carried with a permit for four years. He ran to the window and ordered the teen out.

"'Get down! 'Freeze!'" he said he yelled before firing a shot into the ground to back the order up.

Woulard said the teen didn't say anything as he held him to the ground and waited for police to show up.
http://www.wftv.com/countybycounty/23124408/detail.html


Forest Grove man scares off attacker with warning shot
The Forest Grove News-Times, Apr 8, 2010

A 55-year-old Forest Grove man narrowly escaped a brawl with a drunk 21-year-old from Cornelius early Wednesday morning by firing a warning shot from his pistol while he was pinned, Police said.

John McKnight was walking his dog on the 1700 block of Elm Street about a half-hour after midnight Wednesday when he was accosted by a trio of inebriated young men.

McKnight said the three men assailed him with insults and continued to threaten him. McKnight then drew a .38 caliber pistol and told the trio to back down.

Police say Michael W. Ryan III, a Cornelius man with no fixed address, then said he didn't believe the gun was loaded, and began to assault McKnight.

Police say that Ryan kicked and choked McKnight, who struggled to free himself. In the midst of the struggle, Ryan bit McKnight's finger.

"He bit his finger pretty severely," said Capt. Aaron Ashbaugh, spokesman for the Forest Grove Police Department.

McKnight told police that Ryan had him in a sleeper hold and he felt that he was losing consciousness when he fired a shot from his revolver near Ryan's head.

Only then did the young man back off, Police said.

Officers were on the scene shortly afterward, responding to a number of 9-1-1 calls made during the incident. One of the two men walking with Ryan told police he also called 9-1-1.

Ryan was arrested on charges of Assault IV, strangulation and disorderly conduct and was booked in the Washington County Jail.

McKnight, who suffered minor injuries from the assault, possessed a valid concealed weapon permit.
http://www.forestgrovenewstimes.com/news/story.php?story_id=127077009134675800









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