Reply #318: I'm with you [View All]

[Frederik]

But it's all a question of what people (talking about the general public)are going to accept as proof in a case like this. Nothing is ever proven except in people's minds, that is, you decide when you believe something is proven. And, the idea that an American election could be stolen is probably so counter-intuitive to most people that it would require exceptional or at least "hard" evidence for them to accept it. I wouldn't consider exit polls "hard" evidence, though certainly circumstantial. The case could be made, for instance, that Republicans are more annoyed by pollsters than Democrats, or whatever. For Americans to accept the reality that their votes have been manipulated, they need something like a document saying "Hi Jeb. I've manipulated the results of the election, like you explicitly asked me to. See ya", reprinted in the Washington Post (If it were Ukraine, the circumstantial evidence that exists would have been enough to oust the Bush regime). Exit polls won't convince many, I fear.