Reply #14: Bah-pssch [View All]

[kiahzero]

How was my post an attack on all religions, or any given religious leader? It was a very specific attack on the notion that the Catholic Church should have any say in the governing of nations.

Theocracies will never respect fundamental human rights, and will therefore NEVER be valid governments. The Catholic Church is free to say "Same-sex couples should not marry." However, it has no right to attempt to control governments into denying fundamental human rights on the basis that it misinterprets a 2000-year-old document as attacking those human rights as an "abomination." :puke:

Earlier, someone posted a bumper-sticker that said "You cannot be Catholic and pro-abortion." A similar sticker could read "You cannot be a Catholic and pro-same-sex-marriage." Those are both accurate statements. What is also an accurate statement is "You can be Catholic and pro-choice." The difference is that you understand that your religion no longer rules the entire known world (praise whatever divinity you believe in), and that your religion may contain restraints that are not present in other people's faiths.

I thought we were trying to get people to want to be Dems because we care about PEOPLE and their welfare. It sure doesn't seem like your way is going to accomplish that.

I do care about PEOPLE and their WELFARE. What I don't care about is the feelings of a religious leader who seems to think that he has the authority to dictate to legitimate governments.