Reply #57: What claim would that be? [View All]

[X_Digger]

Here's the post that onehandle responded to, broken down..

It has to go back to the assembly for concurrence because the senate made amendments.

The fact that it's sitting in the concurrence file is evidence- http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/11-12/bill/asm/ab_0101-0150/ab_144_bill_20110909_status.html

This is the same thing that happened last year, the clock ran out.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/politics/Open-Carry-Ban-Zeroes-in-on-Senate-95369479.html
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2010/09/three-anti-gun-bills-defeated-in-california-legislature/

The fight went all the way to the midnight deadline for passage, but AB 1810, AB 1934, and AB 2358 were defeated — at least for this year. As the clock ticked down to midnight, the bills’ sponsors could not secure enough votes to pass the bills.

(AB 1934 was last year's attempt to ban open carry.)

Many pro-2nd amendment supporters are ambivalent over this measure. California is only one of eight states that severely limit a citizen's ability to obtain a concealed carry license1. In previous court cases, the courts have said that such restrictions aren't an infringement because citizens could just choose to carry openly*2. If this passes, expect another suit along previous lines-- which could open up the concealed carry licensing requirements.

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2http://www.examiner.com/county-political-buzz-in-san-diego/california-conceal-carry-gun-rights-case-dealt-another-setback

Yesterday U.S. District Court Judge Morrison England in Sacramento, CA ruled that Yolo County Sheriff Ed Prieto indeed had the right to choose who qualifies for conceal carry gun permits. The judge explained there was nothing unlawful about requesting applicants to prove they have a reasonable need to carry a weapon outside their home.
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Judge England, who was appointed by President George W. Bush, also pointed out in his 16-page decision that there is a California law already on the books that allows most California residents to carry an unloaded weapon with them at all times (excluding school zones), and that these firearms could quickly be loaded to use in case of an emergency.

So the end result of an open carry ban could be more people carrying concealed.

See Peruta v. San Diego County

http://saf.org/viewpr-new.asp?id=362

* The ban on loaded open carry came as a result of then-Governor Ronald Reagan signing the Mulford Act in 1967 in response to the Black Panthers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act


So again, I ask, what 'claim'?