Reply #10: I'm not defending those that pushed the wrong pedal [View All]

[Omaha Steve]

But a Toyota technician showed the event recorder did not capture brake info during his unintended acceleration in 2003. That means these cases you point out could have been telling the truth and the recorder failed to capture that info.

And since Toyota is the ONLY car maker with a proprietary black box, I don't trust what they tell us to begin with. We already know Toyota has failed in the past to comply with court orders to provide subpoenaed info etc.

Yes many car accidents are the drivers fault every day. Yes some of these cases may have been driver error. But there is beyond reasonable doubt that many weren't. And it will be years before the court system and the US Government sort it out.

So I believe we have some common ground.



I know that there have been genuine problems on Toyotas.

I really *don't* have any kind of difficulty admitting that.

I *do* have difficulty with people who uncritically blame the manufacturer
for a problem only if the manufacturer is Toyota and who will swear black is
white to defend incompetent drivers only if the manufacturer is Toyota.

If you view those as acceptable attitudes then we will just have to "agree to
disagree".