Reply #14: How is that determined? I'm just curious. [View All]

[Trillo]

You wrote:

"most Suicides are NOT "real" attempts to kill oneself, but a subconscious call for help."

It seems to me the only way to verify this is by examining those who didn't successfully kill themselves, and if so, it stands to reason the results would be skewed toward that conclusion. Perhaps those who successfully kill themselves leave writings behind?

I also believe that our society stigmatizes those who are unhappy, claiming that the fault lies with them and is not founded in outside, sometimes multiple, causes. In other words, holding the belief that 'successful suicides are not real attempts to kill themselves' could be, if not is, a form of institutionalized denial.

It's clear we have a predatory society that herds the cooperative to many little deaths along life's non-tender journey. What's so hard to understand that some of the less tough may choose to leave and follow through to successfully accomplish that task?

I also think that those who are able to kill themselves are tougher than me. (this makes some of my words inherently paradoxical) Maybe "tough" is the wrong word to use, perhaps the more precise concept is more accurately termed "survival".