Reply #29: What if they want this to go to courts [View All]

[LynneSin]

I mean, let's face it - the Bush Regime is supporting torture no matter what happened with the bill. The fact that everytime I supported voting democrat despite what some had done there was usually a picture of an Iraq somewhere being tortured with a few US Military hanging around.

We are torturing - that bill didn't change shit.

But what if we could get this to the court? And what if the courts overturned this law and claimed that torture was illegal and a violation of constitution rights. Suddenly we now have Bush officially breaking the law, something which wasn't on record up until that point. I'm guessing this is going to have to go to the Supreme Court and we have to hope that our 4 good Supreme Court Justices (Breyey, Ginsberg, Stevens and Souter) remain healthy and on the bench AND that we can somehow convince Kennedy (the wild card - he's notorious for go either way) to side with us.

Bush isn't going to listen to what Congress tells him he can or can't do. He probably won't listen to the Supreme Court either but ignore them would be not only breaking the law but a clear impeachable offense.

I was thinking so much about this bill and especilly why progessive, liberal democrats like Sherod Brown and Robert Menendez, both who opposed the IWR AND Patriot Act would support this bill. Of course both of them are in very tight senate races which could affect the balance of the party and let's face it - that whole "Democrats are weak on terror" still works after all these years. We know better but the average voter still buys into it.