Reply #30: Dude, it failed to meet NIJ standards.... [View All]

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which is a 124 gr at 1400-1450 fps. The Marines don't HAVE a separate set of standards. And, for example, the Military DOES issue 147 grain 9mm to some people for their SMGs. It's not all 112 grain ball.

Remember, the standard used is for subguns, and is dependent upon a wide variety of factors, including dampness, which is often the cause of a busted test (the synthetics offer far poorer ballistic protection when they are even slightly damp).

A IIIA vest is much more than a psychological towel. And read up about the tactics currently being employed....It's almost all a MOUT operation, so it's not like it's taking place at long ranges where an AK round will have lost enough velocity to be stopped by a IIIA vest.

Regarding the time frame, we have troops there fighting and dying NOW. It would be far better to just issue the damned things, defective or not, rather than NOT issue them at all and leave the troops out there with NYCO "bulletproof BDUs". This isn't a situation where we can either issue now or wait a year and do it right, it's a situation where they need everything they can get, and ANY delay WILL cost lives. Better to issue twice than issue once after more people die.