Reply #5: "we were saying publicly is what we were being told privately" Wanna BET?? [View All]

[LynnTheDem]

I sure could use the money, so I'll bet this LYING "senior official" $1 billion US.

bush CLAIM: "I went to Congress with the same intelligence. Congress saw the same intelligence I had, and they looked at exactly what I looked at."

FACT – CONGRESS WAS OUTRAGED AT PRESENTATION BY THE WHITE HOUSE:

The New Republic reported, "Senators were outraged to find that intelligence info given to them omitted the qualifications and countervailing evidence that had characterized the classified version and played up the claims that strengthened the administration's case for war."

-Source: The New Republic, 6/30/03; Wilkes Barre Times Leader, 1/6/04; WP, 9/26/03

http://www.yuricareport.com/Corruption/BushMeetsThePressClaimVsFact.html

I defy ANYONE to find me ONE TIME the CIA said:

"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction."

"We know for a fact that there are weapons there."

"There can be no doubt that Saddam Hussein has biological weapons and the capability to rapidly produce more, many more."

"Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly"

"There is no doubt that the regime of Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction."

"We know where they are."

"Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program."

Because I happen to have the CIA's October 2002 NIE, and it DOES NOT SAY ANY OF THE ABOVE. In FACT, it says the OPPOSITE:

"We lack specific information on many key aspects of Iraq's WMD programs."

And EVERY SINGLE ISSUE the bush and his Cartel LIED about had EXPERT DISSENTING OPINIONS. EVERY ISSUE. IN that October 2002 NIE from the CIA.

LET'S COMPARE the PUBLIC versus the CLASSIFIED VERSION of that October 2002 NIE:

What BUSH said:

"Iraq has continued its weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programs

What the classified version of the NIE said:

"We judge that Iraq has continued its weapons of mass destruction

What BUSH said:

"Iraq hides large portions of Iraq's WMD efforts."

What the classified version of the NIE said:

"We judge that we are seeing only a portion of Iraq's WMD efforts, owing to Baghdad's vigorous denial and deception efforts. ... We lack specific information on many key aspects of Iraq's WMD programs."

What BUSH said:

"Baghdad's UAVs - especially if used for delivery of chemical and biological warfare (CBW) agents - could threaten Iraq's neighbors, US forces in the Persian Gulf, and the United States if brought close to, or into, the US Homeland."

What the classified version of the NIE said:

The Director, Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance, US Air Force, does not agree that Iraq is developing UAVs primarily intended to be delivery platforms for chemical and biological warfare (CBW) agents.

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/news/nation/7914375.htm

WHITE HOUSE REPEATEDY WARNED BY INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY:

The Washington Post reported this weekend, "President Bush and his top advisers ignored many of the caveats and qualifiers included in the classified report on Saddam Hussein's weapons."

Specifically, the President made unequivocal statements that Iraq "has got chemical weapons" two months after the DIA concluded that there was "no reliable information on whether Iraq is producing and stockpiling chemical weapons."

He said, "Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production" three months after the White House received an intelligence report that clearly indicated Department of Energy experts concluded the tubes were not intended to produce uranium enrichment centrifuges.

He said, "Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa," three months after "the CIA sent two memos to the White House in October voicing strong doubts about" the claim.

-Sources: WP, 2/7/04; Bush statement, 11/3/02; DIA report, 2002; Bush statement, 1/28/03; NIE, October 2002; WP, 7/23/03; Bush statement, 10/7/02; WP, 9/26/03

WHITE HOUSE IGNORED INTELLIGENCE WARNINGS:

Knight Ridder reported that CIA officers "said President Bush ignored warnings" that his WMD case was weak. And Greg Thielmann, the Bush State Department's top intelligence official, "said suspicions were presented as fact, and contrary arguments ignored." Knight Ridder later reported, "Senior diplomatic, intelligence and military officials have charged that Bush and his top aides made assertions about Iraq's banned weapons programs and alleged links to al-Qaeda that weren't supported by credible intelligence, and that they ignored intelligence that didn't support their policies."

-Knight-Ridder, 6/13/03; CBS News, 6/7/03; Knight Ridder, 6/28/03

Doubts, Dissent Stripped from Public Version of Iraq Assessment

The public version of the U.S. intelligence community's key prewar assessment of Iraq's illicit arms programs was stripped of dissenting opinions, warnings of insufficient information and doubts about deposed dictator Saddam Hussein's intentions, a review of the document and its once-classified version shows.

As a result, the public was given a far more definitive assessment of Iraq's plans and capabilities than President Bush and other U.S. decision-makers received from their intelligence agencies.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0210-02.htm

CIA to Bush: 'No clear Evidence of WMD'
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/120103A.shtml

WHEN did BUSH tell the American public that the CIA said there was NO CLEAR EVIDENCE? HE DIDN'T.

Why the CIA thinks Bush is wrong

The president says the US has to act now against Iraq. The trouble is, his own security services don't agree.
http://www.sundayherald.com/28384

WHEN did BUSH tell the American public that the CIA said there was NO CLEAR EVIDENCE? HE DIDN'T.

CIA in blow to Bush attack plans

The letter also comes at a time when the CIA is competing with the more hawkish Pentagon, which is also supplying the White House with intelligence on the Iraqi threat.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,808970,00.html

WHEN did BUSH tell the American public that the CIA said there was NO CLEAR EVIDENCE? HE DIDN'T.

White House 'exaggerating Iraqi threat'
Bush's televised address attacked by US intelligence

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,807286,00.html

Did YOU EVER hear BUSH say the #1 experts in the USA on UAVs (drones), the US Air Force, flat-out said from the start that Iraq's "drones" were a joke?

NO YOU DID NOT.

In FACT, bush privately told Congress, right before the IWR vote, that Iraq's "drones" could REACH AMERICA.

Did YOU EVER hear BUSH say that the #1 experts in the USA on centrifuges, the DoE, flat-out said from the start that Iraq's aluminum tubes were NOT for nukes but ONLY for conventional rockets???

NO YOU DID NOT.

Did YOU EVER ONCE hear bush mention ANY of the many many many DISSENTING EXPERT OPINIONS?

NO YOU DID NOT.

It was NEVER the CIA saying "THERE IS NO DOUBT."

bush didn't "make his WMD case" with his own lies; think what total lack of support there would have been, if he'd PUBLICLY READ THE CIA'S NIE, with all their DISSENTING EXPERT OPINIONS AND DOUBTS.