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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:26 PM Original message |
Let's have a law automatically raising taxes whenever we go to war. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. Add the draft to that and I bet we would see the US out of these wars pronto. n/t |
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Drale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yeah how about we don't |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Maybe we need that to wake this country up. The reason I say that is |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 08:17 AM Response to Reply #5 |
21. I see what you're saying with the draft |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Yep, I agree!!! n/t |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
3. How about a user fee for our military for oil companies, sweat shop and plantation owners? |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 01:15 AM Response to Reply #3 |
18. Barring actually getting rid of gasoline, sweatshops, and plantations... |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
4. Automatically raise the taxes of the war profiteers to 90% |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 10:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Yes - there used to be |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
7. A national sales tax of about 3% would cover it. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 10:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. A sales tax falls too heavily on the working poor and the middle class. |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 10:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Would that raise approx. 150 billion annually? |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 10:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Easily, if the raises are done right. |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 10:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. A national VAT or sales tax is a staple of fascist nations |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 11:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. The VAT is common in Europe. |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 12:15 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I'm still against it in a nation with our kind of income inequality. |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 08:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. The VAT may be common in those countries but so are |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. So, would you agree that the VAT is a staple of fascist nations or not? |
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Egalitariat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 08:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
48. Does it have to be a war declared by Congress? Or can it be like Libya? |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Any military action is what I would go with |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 08:53 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. So is a comprehensive social safety net. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
39. The states would never approve it. |
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Qutzupalotl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
8. The poor pay disproportionately now with their loved ones. |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 01:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
20. Not necessarily |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #8 |
28. the lowerclasses not only built this country, they defended it |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
10. actually i've long advocated tax rates that fluctuate with gdp |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
14. That sir is an excellent idea. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 12:26 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Flat tax? |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 01:18 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I was transcribing a meeting of health care providers |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 01:36 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. That is bullshit. The rich have so many write offs and loopholes |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. And? |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. That is futile thoughts and statement. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:06 AM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Futile is a flat tax. |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 09:37 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Grow up and be an adult. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. I could say the same about you |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 10:12 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Only teenage boys? More crock. Your agenda is clear. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:29 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. A flat tax is a flat tax |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Flat tax it is then. Look up those against flat tax,.crooks, rich, etc. etc. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
24. Or just add a flat 10% to their current tax burden |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
25. Many Democrats seem to be arguing that the 14th Amendment gives the President the "right" |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
27. That would make the RW's think before saying yes. |
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Eddie Haskell (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
30. Brilliant! |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
32. amen!! |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
33. yes please! |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
35. No need. Just prohibit war spending from being treated as a regular budget item. |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I like the idea of it being itemized and listed on your tax forms. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. It should also be levied after deductions and credits are calculated. |
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Cool Logic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
36. I have a better idea... |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Also a good idea. |
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ThoughtCriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
41. If only the rich were drafted |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-21-11 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
42. THAT would get people to think twice. n/t |
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southerncrone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
43. Also a 75% tax on profits made from such wars! |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
44. It used to be that way. WW1 the rich paid 80% of net income over $1,000,000. |
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Agony (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
46. add a rider that makes war profiteering illegal and ban contractors from all war zones... |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Because they're not really on our side. |
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Agony (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 09:51 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. The Grijalva/Ellison PB is a sweet spot in the land of SOUR |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
47. and automatically invoke anti-war profiteering committees and laws. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
51. Great idea! |
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