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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 06:46 AM
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Senator Ralph Nader?
Ralph Nader "says he wants to gauge the level of grass-roots support before deciding whether to make a bid to represent Connecticut in the Senate," the AP reports.

The Connecticut Green Party is trying to persuade Nader to challenge Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) next year.

http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/

GAH!!!
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 06:48 AM
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1. Oh Hell yeah!
And what are you doing up at this hour?
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 06:51 AM
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2. It's late for me.
I'm usually up at 3am so I can answer any phone calls.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 07:12 AM
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3. Then YOU should be President!
Cause you just never know who is on the line when the phone rings. Well, actually, with caller I.D. you do.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 07:14 AM
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4. Heh!
I can hear Putin from my front porch.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 07:25 AM
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7. You hear the voices?
Me too!

They keep telling me that 911 was an inside job.

I believe them.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 07:26 AM
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8. I have a variety
of tinfoil hats for almost any occasion.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 07:30 AM
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9. I've had to upgrade to lead. Tinfoil simply does'nt cut it anymore.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 07:33 AM
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10. I plan to have new 'Easter bonnets.' nt
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 10:00 AM
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17. Getting to that and Saddam's supposed connection
to the attack. The British as we all know, are investigation the fake hype up to the war. They are now looking into the anthrax attack. They suspect that it was very suspicious that the anthrax was sent to dems and news. That after the anthrax attack the Bush administration, Condi Rice, used it to pursue Saddam's connection to the attack on the Twin Towers. Which certainly makes it more and more odd that blamed this scientist for the act, and he conveniently committed suicide before an investigation could be made. Since it was sent to democrat senators, democrat organizations, and democratic leaning news people it was suspicious from the get go.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 07:18 AM
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5. He should wait a while and challenge that fool Joe Lieberman. He would be easier to unseat. nt
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 08:27 AM
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12. Nah - Nader only goes into vanity campaigns where he can hurt Democrats.....
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 07:22 AM
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6. Have you been here on DU long enough to remember Carlos?
Edited on Sat Nov-28-09 07:23 AM by OffWithTheirHeads
Seemed like he spent his life looking through DU for any mention of Ralph. As soon as he found one, he would jump on it and his head would explode.

RALPH NADER IS THE REASON GORE LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I used to put up posts with "Ralph Nader" in them just to see how long it would take him to find them.

Never mind that Dick and Rove and Scalia rigged the vote.

I like Ralph. Always have. He is a lot like Chomsky but with more exposure. He speaks truth to power and scares them enough that the MSM has really tried to marginalize him but he is often more right than wrong in what he says.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 09:02 AM
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13. Al Gore is the reason Al Gore lost.
Remember, Gore lost his own home state, a state Clinton won twice, and it was NOT because Nader garnered so many votes.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 10:05 AM
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18. According to my recollection Al Gore got more votes than any candidate in the history of America
Edited on Sat Nov-28-09 10:09 AM by laughingliberal
at that time. As I recall various irregularities in Florida seemed to have stolen that state from him. The "Al Gore lost his own state" chant, I recall, was a RW talking point. I'm from Tennessee. I lived there when Al's father was senator and I lived there when he was senator. Tennessee took a hard right turn politically and electing Democrats there has gotten almost impossible since the days Al, Jr won his senate seat. How far have we all turned right when Democrats say, "Al Gore lost?"


edited punctuation error
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 01:29 PM
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21. It isn't individual votes that gets it.
I'm from TN as well.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 04:37 PM
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24. "It isn't individual votes that gets it." Correct. Which is why the theft of the vote
in FL was critical for Bush to be installed as resident. Not sure your point, here.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 01:32 PM
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22. Clinton won Tennessee in '92 and '96.
Clinton also won West Virginia in both elections. A state where Democrats outnumber Republicans by 2-1.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 04:35 PM
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23. Yes, Clinton also had Perot splitting the Republican vote. Clinton only got 43% of the vote in 92
and did not reach 50% in 96. He also did not have a primary challenger in the 96 campaign and was not trying to run after a president of his own party had been impeached. As I recall, the media completely worked against Gore, distorting and twisting his words, constantly. And, even with Nader, Gore garnered a greater number of votes than any presidential candidate in history at that time. I'd say he did a fine job even with the deck stacked against him and would have been president if the election had been on the up and up.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 07:22 PM
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28. In 1996 Clinton got 51.205% in Tennessee...
Perot split nothing here that mattered.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 09:19 PM
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31. I fail to see your point here
"Al Gore didn't even carry his home state," was a RW talking point during the theft of the 2000 election. Clinton was not running in a year after a president of his own party had just been impeached, either. Tennessee aside, Gore garnered more votes than any other presidential candidate in history until that point. He was the clear preference of a majority of people in the country.

I stand by my belief that if Nader had not been in the race, enough votes would have gone to Gore in Florida to prevent the theft of that state's electoral votes and we would all be better off today. I have no problem with you holding another opinion. It is perfectly ok with me for you to have your thoughts and opinions on it and for me to have mine. See how that could work? You can see it your way and I can see it mine.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 04:41 PM
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25. Nader didn't win his home state either
NT
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 09:50 AM
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15. I remember Jacinto well
I actually felt sorry for him at times, he would get so upset about Nader. It did seem like his head was about to explode.
It was a real obsession. I think he probably blamed Nader for the common cold too.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 07:35 AM
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11. "Ralph Nader, Dictator 2012"
Swig Heil!
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 09:38 AM
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14. And did we tell you the name of the game, boy?
We call it 'Riding the Gravy Train'.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 09:51 AM
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16. Meh, that could be said for any national level political figure..
There ain't a fucking one that's not riding the gravy train.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 10:11 AM
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20. Yeah but the difference is, they run to win.
Cashing in isn't the only reason most of them enter a race. The act of running for office is a career in itself for your buddy Ralph.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 05:16 PM
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27. He already has more money than he could reasonably spend in the rest of his life..
And he's not "my buddy".

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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 10:08 AM
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19. I Love This Great Idea
I love this idea, and would support it. This is probably what Nader should have done before, even though Al "D"LC/NAFTA/GATT Gore lost the election just by being Al "D"LC/NAFTA/GATT Gore. Nader has been a brilliant lawyer and public servant for almost all of my life, and a powerful and brave voice for truth against very threatening interests, such as Sen. Dodd's criminal friends at Countrywide mortgage, for example--Dodd has ended up being a huge disappointment. I was hearing Howard Dean as substitute host on Rachel Maddow a couple of nights ago talking to a guest about the great Sen. Bernie Sanders. Somebody--I think the guest--said that what the Democratic Party needs is the fighters such as we used to have (and mentioned the name of Sen. Metzenbaum of Ohio). It was then said that people think Sanders will be a fighter on health care, but Sanders is really not like that, and will not be one, even though great on the issues. Add the fiery and highly intelligent and principled Ralph Nader to the mix and have them become like a team, and things will be different. That is also the part of the country that might support it; I would love it. Ralph Nader is one of the greatest Americans ever.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 04:41 PM
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26. +01
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 07:30 PM
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29. Running against a Democrat...how brave!!!
:sarcasm:

Fuck him.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 08:41 PM
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30. Yeah why doesn't he run against a reTHUG
oh yeah, they help fund him ... so he can't bite that hand that feeds him. x(
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