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FredStembottom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 11:35 PM Original message |
My biggest worry about abandoning the Public Option is about guns |
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sea four (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. I agree. |
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obliviously (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. Do you honestly |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 12:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Of course it isn't |
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FredStembottom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 12:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Yes. It becomes, in part, about guns. |
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obliviously (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 12:15 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. To many compromises |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 01:25 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Lets use this as a platform for new assualt weapons ban! No sunset this time! nt |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 02:05 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Yeah, because it worked so well last time. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Even CA's "assault weapons ban" doesn't work.. |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 11:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. Quite well. A few people have been busted with them. Now they are felons. Hoo-rah! nt |
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DrCory (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 04:40 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. "I sense something. A presence I've not felt since..." N/T |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. All rifles are used in less than 2% of homicides. |
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tuckessee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
3. The guns have nothing to do with it. |
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FredStembottom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 12:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Caving in to the few gun-toters' demands may spawn the 10,000. |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 01:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. That's why we should have banned and confiscated assualt weapons in 1994. NT |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. All but one (11 of 12?) gun toters had pistols. n/t |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 11:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. It would have stopped idiots from bringing PISTOLS to political rallies? |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 07:20 AM Response to Reply #3 |
13. And Anthrax had nothing to do with Dems giving Bush* Cabal everything they wanted |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 02:42 AM Response to Original message |
11. This is an extremely important point. Thanks for the post. |
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PLR_Writer (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 06:12 AM Response to Original message |
12. Could you expand on the Roosevelt story? |
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kelly1mm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. here is an exerpt and a link for more info |
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FredStembottom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #18 |
42. Thanks, kelly1mm for doing my work! |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
14. K&R |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
19. What those guys were after was publicity and hand-wringing, and they are getting it. |
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FredStembottom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. That sounds far too nuanced to me. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 11:22 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. They've proved once again that it's easy to buffalo a lot of Democratic pols |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 11:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. OK, straight from the interview on HuffPo: |
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FredStembottom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #25 |
34. A distinction w/o a difference? |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
22. Uh...right. |
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FredStembottom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #22 |
32. Read carefully |
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FredStembottom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 11:37 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Replying to myself....... |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
26. Brandishing? |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 02:51 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Professor Plum with a Lamp in the Arboretum |
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FredStembottom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #26 |
37. I see where you are going..... |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. It has not a thing to do with what I want... |
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FredStembottom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 10:54 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Fair enough. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 02:49 AM Response to Original message |
27. Obama Admin did not uphold the Rule of Law regarding Bushco crimes. Gun nuts already got the message |
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FredStembottom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #27 |
39. Self-delete of my state gun-laws reply. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Yes, I was trying to say word got out it's Wild West Time. Rule of Law, Constitution, not so much. |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 02:58 AM Response to Original message |
29. It will without a doubt set a horrible precedent. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 10:25 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. And this is why we must pass universal single-payer. |
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FredStembottom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #31 |
41. That certainly would be the strongest message! |
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FredStembottom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. Yes. Exactly. Thanks, LIAnomie |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
36. Quack. Guns at THs has ZERO to do w/fucking the people over on HC "reform" |
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FredStembottom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. You are probably right. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Agreed on that point. Everyone running about shooting one another won't accomplish anything |
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