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marano35 (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 06:52 PM Original message |
Che Gueverra |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. I think I want some popcorn. |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. is popcorn all we eat for entertainment? |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
72. I'll have some popcorn!! |
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MinM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 08:11 AM Response to Reply #72 |
133. Doris Kearns Goodwin's husband Richard met with Che in 1961... |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
2. Guevara |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
3. hmmmm |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
4. sociopath and serial killer but if that's what you admire, go for it nt |
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marano35 (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Please explain your reply |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. He had many under his command |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. Sure, deserters. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Ding ding ding |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. I have no respect for a |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 10:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
75. That's nice for you |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Isn't though. and |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. I don't have discussions with |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 11:28 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Very intelligent response |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. And Batista supporters. |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 10:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
74. I'm always fascinated by a hispanic news anchor in Miami |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 05:16 AM Response to Reply #24 |
108. so you approve of shooting deserters? |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
73. No: you really don't |
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marano35 (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I thought the same thing... |
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Sequoia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Yes, we know George W is a sociopath and serial killer. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
32. i agree |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
49. I saw a t-shirt on campus recently...basic Che shirt with the word meurte overlayed on it |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. i'd wear it |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 10:29 PM Response to Reply #32 |
76. I just wonder if we have the moral authority to to talk about justice |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #76 |
84. i've never really bought into that line of reasoning |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #84 |
97. There is no comparison even using body count or other method of justification |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 05:19 AM Response to Reply #76 |
109. I didn't give up my rights to speak out just because my government |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #109 |
122. speak out and deliver justice |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
46. You say that like its a bad thing... |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
47. self delete- duplicate |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
7. If killing people makes us have to dislike someone... |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 09:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
62. You can't be serious |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #62 |
77. We could never blame the soldiers for their plight, well trained dogs rarely |
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GA_ArmyVet (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 06:46 AM Response to Reply #77 |
116. Interesting discussion until someone |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 06:51 AM Response to Reply #116 |
117. Cause it's always fun |
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GA_ArmyVet (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 07:07 AM Response to Reply #117 |
119. That does seem to be the way...ah well |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #119 |
124. Fuck 'em |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #116 |
125. Exactly, Soldiers are not dogs. They have a choice in |
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GA_ArmyVet (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. I am sorry, but perhaps I am not understanding |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 10:03 PM Response to Reply #126 |
130. My apologies. I went a little off course from the post but |
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GA_ArmyVet (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 07:09 AM Response to Reply #130 |
131. Ok, got it |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #125 |
127. That wasn't the point of my post |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #127 |
129. I am not refering to "evil" soldiers, I am talking about orders. |
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Smith_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #116 |
134. Well, either one is responsible for ones actions or one isn't. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
9. LOL! That shit drives them nuts! |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
10. I think I get a lot of shit |
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marano35 (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Thats the shirt. |
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Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. At least know who took that most famous pic of Che. Guerrillero Heroico, by Alberto Korda |
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Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. The easiest way to pick out the gringos on the street in Cuba is the Che T shirt. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Had Che fought for US, there would be statues of him all over the country. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. "...but he never meant shit to me but a straight out racist..." |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. I don't think I've ever used the word hero or patriot to describe another person. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 05:22 AM Response to Reply #42 |
110. baloney. you may not use the word but you can't tolerate even the mildest |
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marano35 (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #31 |
64. dude |
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Threedifferentones (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #31 |
121. Exactly, alcibiades |
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marano35 (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Are you saying... |
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Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Nope. |
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End Of The Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
11. I read a biography of Che a coupla years ago |
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marano35 (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I hear ya. |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 07:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
93. A populist uprising to overthrow a wealthy Fascist Gov't. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 05:23 AM Response to Reply #11 |
111. best comment on the thread. |
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marano35 (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
17. I kind of wonder.... |
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End Of The Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. He'd be fighting a losing battle, don't you think? |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
55. Quick solution? Sure: |
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Fireweed247 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
20. I think everyone should rent Motorcycle Diaries |
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Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Every American should be allowed to go to Cuba, instead of being (Tali)banned by the US gov. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
36. lol |
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chatnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
43. Great film, btw |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
123. I loved that movie. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
25. Sorry, it doesn't do much for your credibility that you misspell both Guevara and Comrade. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Deleted sub-thread |
SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
27. Yeah what a hero |
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nomorenomore08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:43 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. That's the kicker right there... |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 04:02 AM Response to Reply #34 |
103. That's why (though I need more info) I tend to think of him as a tragic figure |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
44. What does that say about us, then, that we trail Cuba |
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marano35 (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 09:02 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. Right on man |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 05:26 AM Response to Reply #44 |
112. Comparing Cuba to the U.S, is rather silly and don't forget that |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
30. When I see the t shirts I always wonder why the wearer hasn't signed up for one of the liberation |
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marano35 (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. we got our country by violent revolution |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:52 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. We sure did have a violent revolution in 1776 but Gandhi about 150 years later figured out how to |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 04:03 AM Response to Reply #39 |
104. I don't think the same tactics universally work everywhere. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
88. It's a generic "I'm a leftie!" flag as often as not |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
37. I highly recommend "Che', the two-part movie that came out at the end of '08 |
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marano35 (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. No man is a Saint. |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 04:05 AM Response to Reply #41 |
105. Well fracking said! |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
38. I've seen several films and documentaries about him |
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marano35 (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Jesus syndrome |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
48. Ernest Lynch. |
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OffWithTheirHeads (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
50. At least the guy you talked to knew who he was. |
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marano35 (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Good reply man. |
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OffWithTheirHeads (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 09:07 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Compared to Batista? Hell yeah! |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #50 |
65. An interesting take on this subject. Thanks. nt |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 03:45 AM Response to Reply #50 |
101. "They pretend to pay and we pretend to work" |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 04:29 AM Response to Reply #50 |
106. Che actually was a fan of the Maoist China model of Communism... |
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gauguin57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
51. Che was not the sweet little hottie of "Motorcycle Diaries." |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. Yup.... and sadly no--NOT the sweet little hottie of Motorcycle Diaries |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 09:48 PM Response to Reply #51 |
66. This is my general view. nt |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
57. ... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
58. Deleted sub-thread |
hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
59. Wow... He is an icon that is quite complex... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
60. He was a brutal thug. |
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marano35 (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. exactly what do you base that on? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. I've read that he did nasty, brutal shit to villages in Bolivia that refused to side with him. |
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gauguin57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #63 |
81. Uh ... Reagan, Bush, Cheney were all BAD GUYS! |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
67. Che literally wrote the book about winning the support of the population rather than terrorize them. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
69. What do I think? |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
70. Go back to bed, honey. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-27-09 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
71. I know all about his "brutality"...and I applaud it |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #71 |
85. a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 10:28 PM Response to Reply #85 |
98. Since Guantanamo is related to Iraq, how many people my tax dollars have kill? |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
82. Hmmm, people I know who admire Che Guevara tend to spell his name correctly. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
83. Che is a hero |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. There is that which is deserving of hatred |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. i don't have to |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Maybe you have some "issues" since you keep insisting on how "cute" he was |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. it;s a reference to the image |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #87 |
94. like the idea that courts are archaic bourgeois details? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 05:31 AM Response to Reply #83 |
113. Neither a hero or a "bad guy". |
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galileoreloaded (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
90. Wouldn't offend me anymore than if Tim McVeigh shirts got popular. |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. If I saw someone wearing a McVeigh T-shirt I'd think he's probably |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. good analogy nt |
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roughsatori (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
99. Che shirts on young citizens of the USA are cliche . |
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lutefisk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
100. Was this liquor store in Alabama? |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 03:56 AM Response to Original message |
102. It's always better when the oppressed don't fight back, isn't it? |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 04:31 AM Response to Original message |
107. I don't see how his actions were any worse than Raygun funding the Contras in Nicaragua |
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bird gerhl (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 05:38 AM Response to Original message |
114. I think that Che shirts are lame. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 06:17 AM Response to Original message |
115. Who? |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 07:00 AM Response to Original message |
118. I have a good friend who cuts hair at the Elizabeth Arden Salon in NYC |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
120. All that reading.... |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
128. Every "hero" of every revolution has a dark side...... |
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Smith_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 07:21 AM Response to Original message |
132. I'm not a big Che fan but I acknowledge that many people criticize him for the wrong reasons. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
135. . |
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136. Why no mention of Batista. |
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