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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 05:47 PM Original message |
I'm going to try one more time: What is Hillary's GE plan for winning 90% of the black vote? |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. Obama for VP would be her plan |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. I hope he turns her down, |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. It won't |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. The same one Mondale and Dukakis had after getting no black support against J. Jackson in primaries |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Jesse Jackson didn't not win like Obama has won. He was out by now. There is a difference! |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Jackson was once the front runner and went deep into the process |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
25. no he wasn't...geez, are you having a Tuzla moment. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
38. He had the most delegates entering April. That isn't being the front runner? |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #38 |
58. If you want to pretend that he was considered viable, go ahead |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #58 |
88. So being in first heading into April is not being the front runner? |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #88 |
101. you are trying to win debating points.......JJ had no chance to win |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. That was because his white support tanked after he become the front runner... |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #105 |
112. whatever |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #112 |
122. He won Michigan 55-31. That doesn't happen without large white support |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. What the hell are you talking about? Jackson never made it past Super Tuesday. n/t |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. That's funny. How did he win Michigan by 24% at the end of March if he "never made it past" ST? |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. Super Tuesday in 1984 and 1988 was in March, not February. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #45 |
90. Yeah, and what were Jackson and Gore doing still campaigning well after Super Tuesday? |
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jonestonesusa (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #90 |
163. Jackson Dem is right about the strength of the Jackson campaign |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
36. why are you comparing Jackson to Obama? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Only two candidates have ever gotten 90% support from a racial group during primaries |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. are you saying because blacks only vote for blacks when given the chance? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. They vote 90% for JJ and Obama for the same reason Mormons voted 90% for Romney |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. you ass |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Romney got 90% Mormon support. Does this mean Mormons won't vote for McSame? |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. i dislike your constant pigeonholing of voters |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. yeah, Romney winning Mormons 94-3 over McSame in Utah was all about the issues |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #82 |
93. but you accept identity politics |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. Really? Is this why I decried them sinking Edwards from the get go? |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #97 |
114. when it came down to Edwards and Obama for me |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #114 |
119. If Gary Locke or Bobby Jindal run for president should I vote for them because I identify with them? |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #119 |
123. no, but if there are racial attacks against them |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #123 |
129. What racial attacks were made after Iowa? That is when Obama's black support went to the 70's |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #129 |
142. shuck and jive and Jesse Jackson |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #142 |
160. Neither happened the week after Iowa |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #129 |
147. what percentage of the black vote do you think was based on race? |
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terrell9584 (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #93 |
136. Accepting means recognizing that it exists |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #136 |
146. i'm in the Bay Area, people may start out in certain neighborhoods |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #82 |
98. nice going |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #61 |
165. Really? Then how do you explain that a much smaller % of blacks (20% or less) voted for |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Jackson is the only other major black candidate in the primaries. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:13 PM Original message |
only if you think black and white people only vote according to race |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
50. Only two candidates have ever gotten 90% support from a racial group during primaries |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. i think black folks were voting against racial stereotypes |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. That is a fairy tale. Obama shot up to the 70's among blacks after he won Iowa |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. you are writing like a behavioralist/Marxist |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. It is called history. Whites have not bloc voted in primaries yet. Mormons have |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #79 |
89. in most primaries there have only been whites to choose from! |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #89 |
96. Your ignorance is showing again |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #96 |
104. you don't see color huh |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #104 |
113. I am a minority and understand how this works because I have seen it |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #113 |
117. and you don't spend one bit of time trying to change it here |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #117 |
124. Here? The governing dynamic here is "Clinton" |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #124 |
144. no, wouldn't vote for Manson or McCain over her |
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terrell9584 (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #79 |
126. That's not entirely true. |
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terrell9584 (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #73 |
109. Whites aren't an ethnic group |
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Lady-Damai (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #109 |
139. African or West Indies DON'T share the same basic culture and same basic heritage. n/t |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #109 |
149. that's some very thoroughly thought out |
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BalancedGoat (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #50 |
118. One would also be a fool... |
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cyndensco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #50 |
157. Gore won with 90% of the black vote in 2000. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #43 |
159. so, if they weren't both black, you wouldn't compare them |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #43 |
166. He was "major" because a 90% of black voters voted for him |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
32. he just showed his cards |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Yeah, but neither of them went out of their way to piss off the Black community |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. Who is neither one? |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. OK, now we are on to something |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. It is called the "my GE opponent is white" plan |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. you are a genius.....wish that i'd thought of that one. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Edwards got 2% of the black vote in SC. What was his plan to win 90% of blacks in the GE? |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. hardly, Edwards waged an honorable campaign |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Edwards' black support in SC went from 37% in 2004 (1st) to 2% (third) |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. that doesn't counter my argument |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. That is a weird point. Edwards got 2% in the primaries, 1/10 of what Clinton got |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #42 |
65. There was not room in the race for three candidates |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #65 |
86. Edwards gets 2%=can win AA's. Clinton gets 10-19%=can't win AA's |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #86 |
100. irrelevant, this isn't about statistics...Hillary has PERSONALLY offended a large number of AA's |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Even in Arizona McSame lost Mormons 8-88 to Romney |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #102 |
115. no because McSame didn't alienate the mormons |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #115 |
121. He attacked Romney aggressively. Maybe he did? |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #121 |
133. If McCain loses the mormon vote....I will offer my humble apology to you |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #133 |
161. He won't. That is the point. Neither would Clinton lose the AA vote |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #100 |
125. No, that is your own wishful thinking, based on anectodal, flawed evidence. |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #125 |
140. I know actual humans who feel this way, and the feeling is spreading |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #140 |
143. And I know actual humans who don't feel the same way, and the feeling is spreading. |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #143 |
145. only time will tell |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
44. apparently this is all a big play or show |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. Yeah, race had nothing to do with Jackson and Obama getting 90% from their racial group |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. why did black folks vote in larger numbers for Barack Obama |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #63 |
72. The same reason Mormons voted 90% for Romney |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. because Obama was Mormon? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. If he were Mormon would he get 90% of the Mormon vote like Romney did? |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #84 |
91. you're damn right he wouldn't get 90% of the mormon vote |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #91 |
99. lol!!!! Romney got 94% of the Mormon vote in Utah because of the issues |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #99 |
107. and if Obama were Mormon he would get 94%? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. History suggests yes |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #107 |
116. Yes. Romney beat McCain 11:1 among Mormons (88-8) even in Arizona |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. unlike Mondale and Dukakis, Hillary has seriously alienated AA voters (and some others) |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. The moment Obama won Iowa he shot up to the 70's among blacks nationally |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. it isn't about the lead.........it is about AA's being offended by the type of campaign... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
49. It wasn't losing their support after IA that alienated them. It was her excuse making for SC... |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. She has alienated me |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
55. Can't blame you. |
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rsmith6621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Jackson Never Captured The Attention |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. The bottom line is Jackson got 90% black support twice (84', 88') |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
111. I don't think you got the memo. Link provided |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. You're a fool if you think J Jackson is on Obama's level |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. You're a fool if you can't see the parallel between why JJ and Obama get 90% support |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
28. you pretend that black voters see Jesse Jackson and Barack Obama in the same way |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
46. Jackson finished a strong second on the strength of 90% black support |
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Lady-Damai (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
127. Well, I was one years old in 1984...... |
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cyndensco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
156. Neither Mondale or Dukakis were as objectionable as hrc is. |
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Window (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
158. No. We don't. and No. We won't. |
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quantass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. Maybe she plans to go Black-Face a la Ted Danson/Whoppi Goldberg thing? |
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datopbanana (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
19. Oh she will get 90% of the black vote |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
21. She can win if she breaks even with the white female vote. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. They pretend Dukakis and Mondale didn't exist and that her low poll numbers with blacks are her faul |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
27. She has seriously pissed off a large portion of the African American |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
31. Hillary will struggle to get 90% of the AA vote, but she will. She won't get the same turnout as O. |
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quantass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. All AA's want is FAIRNESS!! You'd be surprised how often people forget that |
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my3boyz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:11 PM Original message |
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!! If she won fair and square. There is no way for her to win |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
47. "fair and square"=a scenario that has Obama winning |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. She'll get 72% of the 40% that bother to vote....... |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #31 |
48. What's the difference between 9% turnout and 11% turnout? |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
62. Kerry lost Florida by around 600 votes. Two percent higher turnout of the AA community could..... |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. Yet Hillary makes up that 2% difference with her strong performances among Latinos. n/t |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #69 |
83. I see, so your response is f*ck the AA's, we will just go with Latinos |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. My point is the white female voting bloc is significantly larger than the black voting bloc. |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #87 |
95. this isn't about comparison of the size of different voting blocks |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #95 |
106. No, it is about a comparision of the size of voting blocs. |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #106 |
131. I guess we will find out in November.....but only one of our candidates will be tested |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #87 |
130. Between the female, Latino and Hispanic, and AA voting blocks, which are the most loyal Democrats .. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #130 |
134. If they are so loyal to our party, then it does not matter who we nominate. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #134 |
141. But now you threaten to alienate the AA voting block, and I also find your comment ........ |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #141 |
150. Nobody is alienating the AA voting block. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #150 |
151. The only chance Hillary has is if the SD's overturn the pledged delegate count. I'm a ..... |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #151 |
152. The only chance that Obama has of winning the nomination... |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #152 |
153. What 14,000,000? There is no popular vote. Hillary is losing the election ......... |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #153 |
154. Yes there is a way. Just look at the primary vote counts. n/t |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #154 |
155. That only shows states that have primaries, not caucuses. n/t |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #69 |
85. Only in the primaries. Shrub won the Presidency due to the Latino and Hispanic vote. There's no .. |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #48 |
120. White women are not loyal to any one party. There in lies your problem. AA are. |
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MeDeMax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
37. she does not need any demographic to win in the GE |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
132. I hope McLame loses just as much as the next guy, but I'm not taking anything for granted..... |
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Austinitis (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
40. She's planning to run against a Republican. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #40 |
59. And a bad precedent and stupid reasoning |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #40 |
66. hypocritical, too |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
52. Instruct the MsM to report that Wright called all black people the n word? jus a shot in the dark |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
53. Obama will do what he needs to and will rally the black vote for Hillary. |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #53 |
75. Oh, I see, so he's shit now, but he will be a decent guy after Hillary slimes her way to victory |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #75 |
135. We will need everybody to pitch in and do their share so we can win. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #135 |
138. All she gets from me in November is a vote |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
54. Get under the bus and beg for them to PLEEEEZE come back?? |
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Lady-Damai (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
57. Maya Angelou will help. n/t |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #57 |
92. Yeah....like by 2%. |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
64. Be quit. Hillary supporters are not in to reality. You will only piss them off and they will call |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
70. Oh, pshaaw.. don't you know that everyone loves MizzzHillary |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
74. i'm gonna try this one more time: why are O-ists such selfish, myopic, deluded cultists? nt |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. the real question is...why is hillary selfishly alienating her most loyal defenders |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #77 |
137. I don't know |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
76. Romney beat McSame 94-3 among Mormons in Utah. Will McSame lose Mormons in the GE? |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. Did McCain offend the Mormon community? |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
94. Those who bother to vote will likely vote for her. |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #94 |
162. This is the answer to be concerned with...yes, she will win the percentage but... |
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Yossariant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
103. What states do you think "the black vote" is going to cause the Dems to LOSE |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #103 |
108. Well, we will win Utah because McCain lost Mormons 3-94 against a Mormon candidate |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #103 |
128. Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio |
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Yossariant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #128 |
148. Your opinion notwithstanding, she polls better in Pa than Obama against McCain. |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #148 |
164. Polls 7 months before an election are uttlery meaningless |
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