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kennetha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 09:08 AM Original message |
Great Speech but was it Great Politics? |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
1. Obama now "owns" the issue of race. |
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kennetha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
34. Of course, owning the issue of race |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Never said it was. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
2. You're right. |
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Ninga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
3. Obama gave the speech he wanted to; he chose not to pander to the political demands. |
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kennetha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I did say it was courageous. |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 09:22 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. It wasn't leadership, it was damage control and he had no choice but to do it. |
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Drachasor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Pretending that speech was the only "damage control" speech possible is missing the reality... |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. hardly. It was lame as is Obama. A man is judged by the company he keeps |
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LordJFT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #12 |
30. is a woman judged by the attorney general she chooses? |
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Drachasor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
36. If you think that speech was lame....then I am at a loss for words |
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Ninga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. What should he have said?? |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. There's not a damn thing he could have said as far as I'm concerned. |
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Ninga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Why? |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Because words can't unring a bell, they can only cover it up. |
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Ninga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. OK, help me out here. What did the ringing bell say? |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Do you believe a person can be judged by the company he keeps? |
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Ninga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Yes. A person can be judged by all the company he/she keeps. What they say, and how |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Well, Obama kept the company of a loudmouthed American hating bigot for the past 20 years, |
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Drachasor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. You really have no idea who Wright is, do you? |
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calico1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
7. I think it was a pretty good speech overall. |
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kennetha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. That the motivation for it was damage control |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
9. Unsure on the 'great' politics part except that it showed leadership |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
11. If nothing else |
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RoadRage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
15. I'm happy as hell to be supporting the candidate who puts issues ABOVE politics.. |
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theredpen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
17. Analysis from a Political Science professor: |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
18. Political Rhetoric from Obama to salvage his campaign |
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kennetha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. If you look at it as a purely POLITICAL act |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. he was in save his ass mode |
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Rainbowreflect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
22. I can only say what difference this speech made in my household. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
24. Wow? Are we channelling Joe Scarborough, or what? |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. His speech today on Iraq was eloquent as well |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. I missed the speech today. |
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insanity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
25. I think we need to have a lot of open discussions |
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ORDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
28. Yeah, right, we should just all ignore race in this country and STFU. |
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kennetha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. You are a nasty, nasty person! |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
31. It is definitely a politically risky thing to do |
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kennetha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I doubt that working class whites |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-19-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. We have 8 months until the GE |
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