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Celerity

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31. this OP is non-factual, it was NOT a slur that Republicans used on FDR, Churchill and FDR themselves
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 12:44 AM
Apr 2019

gave Stalin that nickname.


https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/vol47no1/article02.html

Stalin’s intelligence arm, the NKVD, or People’s Commissariat of Internal Affairs, extended all manner of mechanical eyes and ears throughout the nation to reinforce the Bolshevik party’s totalitarian control. Closed borders, internal passports, censored presses, political purges, and forced-labor camps—all of these features of the Soviet system were common knowledge in the 1930s and 1940s, as even Mission to Moscow acknowledged, but FDR, like Davies, brushed them aside. He wanted no criticisms from Bullitt, Standley, or anyone worried about the Soviet massacre of Polish officers in Katyn Forest, for example. To keep the war effort united and to work for postwar democracy, he wanted to please Iosif (“Joseph”) Stalin, whom he liked to call “Uncle Joe.” His primary purpose was to makes friends with a man widely believed to have murdered his wife, liquidated his closest political comrades, and ordered the assassination of Leon Trotsky in Mexico in August 1940. As Thomas Fleming notes in The New Dealers’ War: FDR and the War Within World War II, Churchill once said that making an alliance with Stalin would be the same as “shaking hands with murder.” But that was before he, too, warmed up to Uncle Joe.



https://www.polishgreatness.com/winstonfranklinunclejoe.html

In 1940, Stalin, one of the most hated
men in the world made the cover of
Time Magazine as Man of the Year.
Three years later, Stalin was suddenly
transformed into a serene and saintly
figure. Churchill and Roosevelt called
him "Uncle Joe".




https://www.csmonitor.com/Books/Book-Reviews/2015/0305/Roosevelt-and-Stalin-details-the-surprisingly-warm-relationship-of-an-unlikely-duo

Butler isn’t a master storyteller, but she has a firm grasp on dozens of other details from FDR’s infamous non-stop talking to Stalin’s honey-colored eyes and fireplug body. (An American says he’s “the coach’s perfect dream of a tackle” with huge hands “as hard as his mind.”) The two men bond by making fun of an annoyed Churchill, and Stalin even teases FDR by acting offended to learn he’s called “Uncle Joe” behind the scenes.



Franklin D. Roosevelt and American Foreign Policy, 1932-1945



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Thank You, TexasT! I hate it when Cha Apr 2019 #1
Thank you, sir. Joseph Stalin used to be referred to as "Uncle Joe".... George II Apr 2019 #2
More reason! Cha Apr 2019 #6
How About GREAT Uncle Joe? DoctorJoJo Apr 2019 #3
That's OK we've re appropriated it. TAken it just like snowflake. nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #4
I agree that it is not endearing bloom Apr 2019 #5
Okay. I just used it in a reply to a post. I didn't realize it underthematrix Apr 2019 #7
Thank You, underthematrix! Cha Apr 2019 #8
Yep. Once Joe Biden jumped in we were not only happy. We were underthematrix Apr 2019 #14
That's the way I feel about it, underthematrix.. Cha Apr 2019 #17
I'm just thankful FDR preferred Uncle Joe to Uncle Adolph, if it were Trump Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #9
+1 😁 Duppers Apr 2019 #23
LOL!nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #24
Oh-oh. How are we supposed to refer to YOU, Uncle Joe? nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #25
You can call me UJ, just don't call me OJ, even orange juice has a bad name now. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #27
LOL. Poor UJ. You've been painted into a corner by urban slang. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #29
You're welcome. TexasTowelie Apr 2019 #35
I wouldn't use it even if I was a big fan of him. BlueStater Apr 2019 #10
What if your name was Joe and you were an Uncle but not a father? Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #20
Thank you! Helpful history lesson. (nt) IndyOp Apr 2019 #11
Thank you TexasTowelie. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #12
Exactly, she! It's Cha Apr 2019 #16
This, Cha. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #18
That "daddy" thing is beyond weird. cwydro Apr 2019 #38
Agreed! sheshe2 Apr 2019 #41
I never noticed that caraher Apr 2019 #13
Yes, but the right has always done that. It's like calling us the democrat party. rusty quoin Apr 2019 #19
That's right caraher Apr 2019 #26
I lived in Indiana too. Do you remember Evan Bayh? Oh boy he was a piece of work. rusty quoin Apr 2019 #28
Evan Bayh sure made a career off his last name caraher Apr 2019 #37
Thanks for pointing that out, TT. brer cat Apr 2019 #15
There's a good response to any rethug who tries to call us commies Leith Apr 2019 #21
I always thought of the Petticoat Junction Character. Gore1FL Apr 2019 #22
Loved Edgar Buchanon as a character in that show MichMan Apr 2019 #33
Also tired of hearing Maxine Waters called "Auntie Maxine" MichMan Apr 2019 #30
That one's even worse! janx Apr 2019 #40
A lot of people on Black Twitter use it. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #49
Yup I HATE that one Raine Apr 2019 #45
this OP is non-factual, it was NOT a slur that Republicans used on FDR, Churchill and FDR themselves Celerity Apr 2019 #31
It just reminded me of the Joe Paterno Jo Pa thing. n/t luvallpeeps Apr 2019 #32
I think it's fine. David__77 Apr 2019 #34
I don't care what it's suppose to Cha Apr 2019 #36
Words and phrases customerserviceguy Apr 2019 #39
Oh boy, I weep for Daddy Warbucks rusty fender Apr 2019 #42
It's much more endearing than the other nicknames he's been given! nt m-lekktor Apr 2019 #43
Joe Biden doesn't Cha Apr 2019 #44
I didn't know that and I bet most don't so Raine Apr 2019 #46
I'm fine with Uncle Joe. A couple of huge assets he brings Hortensis Apr 2019 #47
Huh, I always took it as a reference to his work during the Obama years -- a warm, steadying presence WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #48
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