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delisen

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40. Biden did vote for the Iraq War Res but was elected as vp in 2008
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 08:55 AM
Apr 2019

Last edited Wed Apr 24, 2019, 09:29 AM - Edit history (1)

So I think the supposed Iraq Resolution vote being a "disqualifier" may have been part of an anti-female candidate vote-specifically against Hillary Clinton. (Both senators from NY, hardest hit by the 9/11 attack, voted for the Iraq War Resolution.

I don't recall any outcry against Biden being selected as vp due to his war vote. In a sense many Democrats endorsed the resolution in 2008 by
apparently accepting Biden as vp.

From the N Y Times in 2002:
The actions came after long days of debate on the House and Senate floors over Mr. Bush's decision to confront Iraq. The president argued that in the post-Sept. 11 world, Mr. Hussein, the Iraqi leader, could provide terrorist groups with chemical, biological or nuclear weapons or use them himself.

Under the resolution, President Bush is authorized to use the armed forces ``as he determines to be necessary and appropriate'' to defend the nation against ``the continuing threat posed by Iraq,'' and to enforce ``all relevant'' United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq. He is required to report to Congress within 48 hours of any military action.

The resolution was far less broad than the initial resolution put forward by the White House, which members of both parties said was too open-ended and could conceivably allow military action throughout the Middle East. In a concession to Democrats, the resolution encourages the president to try to work through the United Nations before acting alone. Still, it leaves him with broad latitude.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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There are many things that disqualify Joe, imo JackInGreen Apr 2019 #1
No fatrick Apr 2019 #2
This isn't a game (n/t) PJMcK Apr 2019 #26
You understand what a metaphor is don't you? fatrick Apr 2019 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Apr 2019 #106
Disqualify, no...1 of many factors placin Joe at the bottom of my list of Democratic candidates, yes InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #107
It doesn't disqualify anyone and I don't get that whole argument anyway when we were all being UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #3
LOL leftofcool Apr 2019 #11
Exactly. People seem to forget Cheney's lies that were put out as fact to Congress. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #15
Yeah, but not everyone fell for those lies... they're the ones whose judgment we should trust!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #108
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Apr 2019 #43
Wow, we've lost some great Dems since then. mobeau69 Apr 2019 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Apr 2019 #93
I suggest the people, all of us, read the AUMF to see what it actually says..... George II Apr 2019 #55
I did read it then and still thought it was wrong and obvious marylandblue Apr 2019 #80
"Real World Democrats" Magoo48 Apr 2019 #44
what a crock shanny Apr 2019 #105
THANK YOU!!! The Mouth Apr 2019 #110
Did Biden vote for the Iraq war? Can you show me the vote. LuvLoogie Apr 2019 #4
Just engine search Biden's vote on Iraq War. You will find it fast. nt delisen Apr 2019 #8
Congress gave Bush the authorization to use force, watoos Apr 2019 #10
The Iraq Resolution;Pub.L. 107-243, 116 Stat. 1498, enacted October 16, 2002, H.J.Res. 114 oldsoftie Apr 2019 #12
Study a little history PJMcK Apr 2019 #28
What about someone who voted for military force in Iraq. Twice. In 1998. ehrnst Apr 2019 #120
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Apr 2019 #38
I warned people when it was fun and games watoos Apr 2019 #5
How would it disqualify him? WeekiWater Apr 2019 #6
It Disqualified Hillary leftofcool Apr 2019 #9
What? WeekiWater Apr 2019 #13
Say What?!! that's news to me, too! Cha Apr 2019 #17
Hey Cha! Remember all those people who wouldn't vote for Hillary because of her vote on Iraq? leftofcool Apr 2019 #24
Oh you mean like.. Cha Apr 2019 #45
I know. leftofcool Apr 2019 #49
I'm fine and rooting for Cha Apr 2019 #52
I hear ya leftofcool Apr 2019 #59
She did leftofcool Apr 2019 #19
I'm glad it has been a brief but good learning exercise. NT WeekiWater Apr 2019 #20
I remember posts about Hillary's IWR vote saying she had fangs dripping with blood in 08 Autumn Apr 2019 #30
In 2-16 DP forum treestar Apr 2019 #97
In your mind? watoos Apr 2019 #16
People who object to this statement need to ask themselves a couple of questions BeyondGeography Apr 2019 #27
IWR had nothing to do with 08. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #32
Lol BeyondGeography Apr 2019 #39
WTF? shanny Apr 2019 #111
It didnt. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #34
No it didn't. She won the nomination and it can be argued that she won the general election, too. George II Apr 2019 #56
But not John Edwards... I guess it all depends on who's doing the disqualifyin'. NurseJackie Apr 2019 #73
He didn't win the nomination, did he? BlueStater Apr 2019 #75
Whoosh! NurseJackie Apr 2019 #77
Yep, your non-sequitur went over my head. BlueStater Apr 2019 #79
All I'm saying is that sometimes it's disqualifying and other times it's not... NurseJackie Apr 2019 #82
No it doesn't DownriverDem Apr 2019 #7
Biden's biggest threat is within his own party. "Its coming from inside the house". oldsoftie Apr 2019 #21
And once again they will elect the Republican Trump. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #31
Right again. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #37
Your 1000% certainly that Anyone other than Biden crazytown Apr 2019 #65
I am 100 % certain that Biden can take three states that deny Trump an electoral Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #72
And if there is a Stockmarket crash ala 2008 crazytown Apr 2019 #78
We can't count on any such issue. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #81
Ofcourse not crazytown Apr 2019 #84
In the end we elected a Democrat. The worst year was 16 ...I am angry even now Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #96
I get it now. crazytown Apr 2019 #99
I want to win. Trump is dangerous. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #100
This is my standard gentle reply to remind you that tRump was NOT elected! abqtommy Apr 2019 #70
He was elected by the electoral college and will do it again if Biden is not Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #74
There wasn't an anointed anyone when Biden ran in 88 and 2008. Where did his losses back then Autumn Apr 2019 #36
In '08, the same thing happened to Hillary; Obama. In '88, he got lucky. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #41
And your post that I responded to wasn't about the Iraq war. Was it? Autumn Apr 2019 #60
Yes, but You have to see the difference in the party now compared to then. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #117
I love Mayor Pete but if Joe wins the nomination, I am all in. leftofcool Apr 2019 #51
Nope. TrunKated Apr 2019 #14
No, I live in 2019. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #18
Boom. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #23
How I view the Iraq War vote... louis c Apr 2019 #22
Right and some here will cry when Trump beats whoever as Biden is the only candidate Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #29
"as of this point in time". Who KNOWs what will happen between now & super Tuesday. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #47
Trump will win the electoral college unless we deny him PA, WI and Mi. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #63
I think trump has already lost 2 of those as of now. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #118
I don't know if only Biden can beat Trump... louis c Apr 2019 #50
Who else can take PA,WI and MI.? Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #61
No one can do better than Biden in those three states... louis c Apr 2019 #66
Yes...we won last time...by millions of votes. Meaningless if you Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #68
... shanny Apr 2019 #112
No. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #25
Trump was against the war. Turbineguy Apr 2019 #33
Holy crap, thats right. Trump was adamantly opposed from the start. Good catch! oldsoftie Apr 2019 #48
No tymorial Apr 2019 #35
Biden did vote for the Iraq War Res but was elected as vp in 2008 delisen Apr 2019 #40
Of course not he has a penis silly dsc Apr 2019 #42
LOL leftofcool Apr 2019 #53
For the umpteenth time, neither Biden nor any other Senator "voted for the Iraq war". That's NOT... George II Apr 2019 #46
I know that and you know that leftofcool Apr 2019 #57
REC! I appreciate you explaining that, Cha Apr 2019 #62
As we used to say on USENET, "This needs to be in the FAQ" LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #83
We used to say "RTFF"! Or in this case "RTFAUMF"! George II Apr 2019 #85
No Peacetrain Apr 2019 #58
Obama didn't think so jberryhill Apr 2019 #64
nope, didn't disqualify Hillary in my book, the only person I hold accountable is Colin Powell beachbum bob Apr 2019 #69
It's part of a multitude of things that disqualify him. BlueStater Apr 2019 #71
Which Patriot Act are you talking about? The Patriot Act that's on the books... George II Apr 2019 #86
This: BlueStater Apr 2019 #92
Very little disqualifies electable Dem candidates these days... zaj Apr 2019 #76
No, but... Mike Nelson Apr 2019 #87
Yes Jokerman Apr 2019 #88
No but ... Dem4Life101 Apr 2019 #89
There would be no Iraq war but for the purity standards R B Garr Apr 2019 #90
+∞ LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #91
There were a hell of a lot of people who supported the Iraq war who deny it now LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #94
If Pete B joined military at a time when they were killing innocent Muslims, does that disqualify Hoyt Apr 2019 #95
No more so than Bernie's vote for the crime bill or his many votes aginst comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #98
No LakeArenal Apr 2019 #101
No, more than half of the democratic Senators in 2002 voted in favor of the Iraq Resolution no_hypocrisy Apr 2019 #102
... BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #103
"if"? He did. shanny Apr 2019 #104
No, but it definitely is a position I disagreed with at the time. Will I hold it against him? KPN Apr 2019 #109
I'll take Joe Biden over most of the rest anyday ! stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #113
I think millennials should speak to this loyalsister Apr 2019 #114
Only if you are a single--issue voter Jose Garcia Apr 2019 #115
LOL. is this the best you've got? it's kind of lazy. #lame EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #116
It didn't disqualify Kerry and Hillary Renew Deal Apr 2019 #119
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