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Gothmog

(145,293 posts)
83. How 'Never Bernie' Voters Threw In With Biden and Changed the Primary
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 02:42 PM
Apr 2020

sanders was appealing only to 30% of the party and after South Carolina the rest of the party moved to Joe Biden to stop sanders.



Rarely has political momentum flipped as quickly as it did in the first half of March, as Mr. Sanders lost serious ground to Mr. Biden before the coronavirus slowed their race. There are well-known reasons for the shift: Moderate candidates like Mr. Buttigieg and Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota rallied around Mr. Biden. He enjoyed demographic advantages, particularly with black voters. And turnout among young voters and liberal nonvoters did not surge, failing to reshape the electorate as Mr. Sanders had hoped.

But beyond ideology, race and turnout, a chief reason for Mr. Biden’s success has little to do with his candidacy. He became a vehicle for Democrats like Ms. King who were supporting other candidates but found the prospect of Mr. Sanders and his calls for political revolution so distasteful that they put aside misgivings about Mr. Biden and backed him instead.

In phone interviews, dozens of Democrats, mostly aged 50 and over, who live in key March primary states like Massachusetts, Virginia, Michigan and Florida, said that Mr. Biden’s appeal went beyond his case for beating President Trump. It was his chances of overtaking Mr. Sanders, the only candidate in the vast Democratic field they found objectionable for reasons personal and political.....

These voters’ willingness to unite against Mr. Sanders helped Democratic Party leaders stave off his insurgent campaign and has made Mr. Biden the all-but-certain Democratic nominee. The convergence behind Mr. Biden also highlights a critical difference between this year’s primary and what happened to the Republican Party in 2016. Four years ago, establishment Republicans were openly skeptical of Mr. Trump after his victories in early primary states, but a fractured field and split primary vote allowed him to amass an insurmountable delegate lead, reshaping the party in the process.....

Ahead of Mr. Sanders’s presidential run in 2020, his campaign did not concern itself with smoothing tensions among voters who supported Mrs. Clinton in 2016. He did not seek the endorsements of many party leaders, who were always unlikely to back him, but could have been swayed from being openly antagonistic to ambivalent.

As a result, after a strong finish in Iowa and wins in New Hampshire and Nevada, Mr. Sanders did not benefit from an assumed truth of presidential campaigns: that early-state victories help bring in voters from other factions. Instead, people like Lori Boerner of McLean, Va., said Mr. Sanders’s performance sent them searching for a candidate who could stop his rise, and after the South Carolina primary, they landed on Mr. Biden.

Relying on the vote of 30% of the Democratic Party did not work when the rest of the party disliked sanders and so selected a candidate who would stop sanders from being the nominee
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
So basically - OhZone Mar 2020 #1
"..abrupt decline was a result of unforeseeable and highly unlikely events.." Cha Mar 2020 #5
Let's hear it for Senator Amy Klobuchar and Mayor Pete Buttigieg! William769 Mar 2020 #2
No kidding! I was in Awe of Pete and Amy when Cha Mar 2020 #8
I'm guessing Bernie not to so much. William769 Mar 2020 #9
Uuuuh.. Just the opposite Cha Mar 2020 #12
+++ brer cat Mar 2020 #11
Country and Planet.. Cha Mar 2020 #22
Indeed! mcar Mar 2020 #15
Cultish righteousness bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #3
"Join us or die!" Grokenstein Mar 2020 #28
lol.. I hear that. Cha Mar 2020 #43
LOL! NurseJackie Mar 2020 #48
They shouldn't expect to win then.. It should Not be Cha Mar 2020 #40
He was never on the brink of winning relayerbob Mar 2020 #4
Memoirs title: "A Funny Thing Happened On My Way To The Nomination". oasis Mar 2020 #24
He just THOUGHT he was on the brink of winning. calimary Mar 2020 #67
He was on the brink of delegate 46+ before SC. Scurrilous Mar 2020 #72
Exactly.. they just said they were like they say Cha Mar 2020 #82
Bernie's Assumptions and Campaign This Year Are An Object Lesson Vogon_Glory Mar 2020 #6
Well said VG.. Thank you! Not only didn't "make friends" Cha Mar 2020 #32
Getting rid of Trump is the only "revolution". . . DinahMoeHum Mar 2020 #35
It doesn't seem like the Blue Wave House Victory Cha Mar 2020 #44
#newrostrong refers to New Rochelle, NY. . . DinahMoeHum Mar 2020 #47
Thank you for this explanation, Dinalh! I knew Cha Mar 2020 #68
It seems BS were only concerned about one thing... LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #53
I kept saying that 30% wasn't enough, and was met with the argument that it was more pnwmom Mar 2020 #7
Warren is way more like Biden. She is a member of the Democratic Party. NT GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #39
Her policies might be closer to his than some of the others but, YES, pnwmom Mar 2020 #41
What he underestimated is how much the other 70% didn't want him to win. unitedwethrive Mar 2020 #10
rom day 1, Bernie built a campaign to appeal to 30% Gothmog Mar 2020 #13
He had the same message he had 4o years ago for that matter. LSFL Mar 2020 #26
And as he lost more and more his message just got shoutier and shoutier ToxMarz Mar 2020 #30
Wow! mcar Mar 2020 #14
Bernie's grievance politics consolidated the left to a 30% losing minority Gothmog Mar 2020 #18
Who does that sound like? mcar Mar 2020 #20
There are a large number of real Democrats who have very good memories Gothmog Apr 2020 #85
So, then, he thought he could follow Trump's pattern? MineralMan Mar 2020 #16
Exactly. He Was Hoping To Follow Trump's Path to Victory TomCADem Mar 2020 #33
Sanders's secret is out: He has no movement Gothmog Mar 2020 #17
Personally I don't think Pelosi has a problem with some getting to her left. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #55
What they are avoiding to say is NCProgressive Mar 2020 #19
Biden outsmarted him it seems. ucrdem Mar 2020 #21
Biden understood the Democratic party primary electorate far better than Sanders, and what sop Mar 2020 #79
Democrats learned from repubs' 2016 mistakes tishaLA Mar 2020 #23
Trump drags his cult along exboyfil Mar 2020 #58
Dumb strategy. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #25
He thought by sheer force of his personality he could get all the Democrats pnwmom Mar 2020 #42
Who was it that said Democratic members of Congress don't like him? LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #59
He thought the others would stay in long enough that 30% would do it. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #51
Their so-called strategy was amateur hour. Every multi-candidate field narrows. brush Mar 2020 #27
Nothing shocks me anymore mercuryblues Mar 2020 #29
Don't you mean the Democratic Establishment? LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #57
That was the word I was looking for. mercuryblues Mar 2020 #64
Classic addition by subtraction grantcart Mar 2020 #31
I do hope that Ohio Democrats at their state convention oust Turner as a DNC member. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #60
Posting last 2 paragraphs of article. iluvtennis Mar 2020 #34
I don't think that is the problem. They need to put out a better message. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #61
+ agree. nt iluvtennis Mar 2020 #65
The signs of a failed campaign were there. showblue22 Mar 2020 #36
It boggles the mind to think that Cha Mar 2020 #38
I think you added a word that doesn't belong there. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #56
Bernie is incapable or unwilling... Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #37
It's so good to see that Democrats didn't fall for his R B Garr Mar 2020 #45
You're Welcome, RB.. Cha Apr 2020 #84
The really interesting part is that Codeine Mar 2020 #46
If they wait until convention time it is too late. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #62
He has a pattern of planning to achieve by smashing. Hortensis Mar 2020 #73
I know.. evidently they thought they Cha Apr 2020 #88
Clueless to how primaries work. honest.abe Mar 2020 #49
The field ALWAYS narrows...it was not an unforseeable event Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #50
Unforseeeable and highly unlikely events? LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #52
Others here pointed out that Sanders was relying on the 30%. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #54
To play Devils Advocate TheFarseer Mar 2020 #63
That Would Have Been A Very Foolish Assumption, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #66
"...the most unprecedented event in the history of presidential primaries occurred.'" Hekate Mar 2020 #69
They were "shocked".. We were full of Gratitude. Cha Mar 2020 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Mar 2020 #70
I wish I could have been a fly-on-the-wall... NurseJackie Mar 2020 #74
Bernie Sanders clings to a fantasy campaign Gothmog Mar 2020 #75
Insiders recount how Sanders lost the black vote -- and the nomination slipped away Gothmog Mar 2020 #76
"they really thought 30% would win it" sheshe2 Mar 2020 #77
Well written article- thanks for posting. Let's see- who else plows ahead with a 30% die-hard cult? NBachers Mar 2020 #78
You're Welcome, Bachers.. I like it, and we can read the whole Cha Mar 2020 #80
Why Can't Bernie Accept That Democratic Voters Didn't Want Him? Gothmog Mar 2020 #81
How 'Never Bernie' Voters Threw In With Biden and Changed the Primary Gothmog Apr 2020 #83
"Never Bernie" were just sensible mainstream progressives, Hortensis Apr 2020 #87
Sanders is under 30% in this poll Gothmog Apr 2020 #86
Nate has some great comments Gothmog Apr 2020 #89
10 Lessons The Progressive Left Can Take From Bernie Sanders' Campaign Gothmog Apr 2020 #90
Why did Bernie Sanders drop out? The progressive majority he needed doesn't exist Gothmog Apr 2020 #91
Thank you for this, Goth.. looks interesting. Cha Apr 2020 #92
I just want to make particular note of this long sentence! Cha Apr 2020 #93
Biden is relying on same set of voters who were responsible 2018 midterm victory Gothmog Apr 2020 #94
The House Victory in 2018 has only been our Lifeline to Cha Apr 2020 #95
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