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Hortensis

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17. Biden for 50 YEARS has protected SS and its recipients.

Sat Mar 7, 2020, 12:12 PM

Mar 2020

When you know the candidate, scurrilous liars can't confuse and trick you by misrepresenting details.

It also makes knowing what's truth and what's gong to be a lie easy. Dirty politicians depend on sowing doubt and confusion, not just the lies themselves. But when you know who Biden is, you know what the intent and end result will have been. No need to look up dozens of complicated legislative histories to find the truth.

Btw, shouldn't Sanders be warning people of the Republicans' plans to destroy SS? Isn't deliberately confusing people about who's doing what by telling them Biden's also an enemy of SS itself a dangerous failure to protect it from the Republicans?

Confused, doubting Democrats who don't know what to think don't vote, while Republicans don't bother with confusion or doubt, they just vote their party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Does Biden want to cut social security? [View all] mysteryowl Mar 2020 OP

I know who is has & wants to..... Boxerfan Mar 2020 #1

This is a quest for understanding. mysteryowl Mar 2020 #2

If it is a "quest for understanding" then I'd suggest google is your friend Merlot Mar 2020 #5

I am not intending to be inflammatory. mysteryowl Mar 2020 #9

The topic has been covered extensively here. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #18

This is all new news to me. It might be repeat for others, but it is new to me. mysteryowl Mar 2020 #28

Intercept has put out some very inflammatory statements regarding anyone except their Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #43

There is a way to determine whether it is fake news JHB Mar 2020 #26

I'd like to know his vote on the 1986 age raise of social security jimfields33 Mar 2020 #51

It was raised to fix a known problem and was widely delisen Mar 2020 #55

It's unreal isn't it. I was in my 40s then so I didn't pay much attention but if they hadn't pushed Doremus Mar 2020 #58

No, he doesn't want to cut SS. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #3

No. He NEVER wanted to cut social security. Many years ago he, along with many in Congress.... George II Mar 2020 #4

+++ still_one Mar 2020 #10

And now Biden wants to raise the ceiling PatSeg Mar 2020 #13

That's laudable hangaleft Mar 2020 #38

Thanks for the explanation. Like the OP, I needed answers not patricia92243 Mar 2020 #47

Thank you. You clarified better than I have seen elsewhere. emmaverybo Mar 2020 #53

Bernie Sanders wants to expand it.. whathehell Mar 2020 #6

I don't think Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #7

Of course it wouldn't whathehell Mar 2020 #25

Ah, of course. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #31

NTSA. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2020 #8

I can see that you are concerned about this. MineralMan Mar 2020 #11

I think what prompted a lot of this is that David Sirota was on MSNBC this morning claiming.... George II Mar 2020 #20

Yes, it is a lie, and it's a terrible mistake for the Sanders campaign MineralMan Mar 2020 #23

I don't watch MSNBC and I don't know who David Sirota is. mysteryowl Mar 2020 #36

David Sirota is Sanders' "National Speech Writer", aka "Communications Director", aka now.... George II Mar 2020 #39

He is one of sanders Hatchet men. When Sanders hired Jill Stein supporter Briahna Joy Gray, and still_one Mar 2020 #45

I don't believe he wants SS cut. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #12

If that were true Butterflylady Mar 2020 #30

Let me explain this to you. Sloumeau Mar 2020 #14

Thanks for the explanation! Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #15

Thanks. That's my recollection pretty much. KPN Mar 2020 #27

How did this happen when the House was controlled by our party the entire Reagan presidency ? nt MichMan Mar 2020 #42

When Reagan won in 1980, he won big. Sloumeau Mar 2020 #46

Check it Faux pas Mar 2020 #16

I will read the article, but I can see that these kinds of articles have indeed been circulating. mysteryowl Mar 2020 #21

The intercept??????????????? NYMinute Mar 2020 #29

I am reading the Intercept article and it is making specific researched points. mysteryowl Mar 2020 #34

Intercept is a worthless rag NYMinute Mar 2020 #35

Biden for 50 YEARS has protected SS and its recipients. Hortensis Mar 2020 #17

Bravo. emmaverybo Mar 2020 #54

Joe Biden's Official positions on Social Security: pazzyanne Mar 2020 #19

Interesting. Same source, same author, two weeks later. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #22

Thanks, I will read it. mysteryowl Mar 2020 #32

I oppose means testing hangaleft Mar 2020 #40

Exactly loyalsister Mar 2020 #48

You've inadvertently hit on one of my favorite points hangaleft Mar 2020 #50

I don't think that is necessarily a wise idea. TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #56

Your points are well taken hangaleft Mar 2020 #57

I did understand the points you were making. TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #60

I stand by my basic premise hangaleft Mar 2020 #61

Disagree on that to some extent. Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #59

I did not know he was "entertaining" the idea of raising the retirement age. mysteryowl Mar 2020 #41

The author of the article you linked wrote a follow-up two weeks later. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #24

Sanders needs to lose in Michigan and disband his NoMoreRepugs Mar 2020 #33

He is putting out a lot of out right lies showblue22 Mar 2020 #37

Obama and Biden are not necessarily of the same mind hangaleft Mar 2020 #44

he used to RussBLib Mar 2020 #49

Increasing the cap is one of his goals. bluedye33139 Mar 2020 #52