Democratic Primaries

DanTex

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102. I guess we differ on who is being embarrassed. It happens lol...

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Fri Feb 28, 2020, 12:24 PM

Feb 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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A candidate that gets 35% of the votes shouldn't win. But a candidate that gets 25% should! [View all] DanTex Feb 2020 OP

Oh, FFS. Squinch Feb 2020 #1

+1! eom BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #2

... LexVegas Feb 2020 #3

Oh, FFS! NurseJackie Feb 2020 #4

Most definitely. TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #14

Where's that beating a dead horse gif? mcar Feb 2020 #106

3 states so far.. SunsetDreams2 Feb 2020 #5

Agreed. No idea why superdelegates are already talking about stopping Bernie at the convention. DanTex Feb 2020 #9

The New York Times SunsetDreams2 Feb 2020 #16

Hopefully you're right, and those superdelegates that went on the record for that NYT article DanTex Feb 2020 #18

They quoted 3 or 4 but claimed SunsetDreams2 Feb 2020 #23

"overwhelming opposition to handing Mr. Sanders the nomination if he fell short of a majority ehrnst Feb 2020 #129

Maybe the convention rules should just be, "Bernie gets the nomination no matter what". n/t Mister Ed Feb 2020 #6

LOL!! peggysue2 Feb 2020 #12

Nah. Bernie/Biden/Warren/Pete/Mike/Amy gets the nomination if (s)he gets the most votes. DanTex Feb 2020 #17

Most votes has nothing to do with it... SidDithers Feb 2020 #26

It does if we want to avoid fracturing the party and re-electing Trump. DanTex Feb 2020 #52

If we want to avoid fracturing the party... Mister Ed Feb 2020 #65

+1000. ehrnst Feb 2020 #123

The rules ARE the rules. MineralMan Feb 2020 #71

Of course. How the delegates and supers choose to carry out those rules makes all the difference. DanTex Feb 2020 #72

That is your opinion, which is fine, but it has nothing MineralMan Feb 2020 #76

And your opinion is fine too. We'll see. Hopefully the supers respect the will of the electorate, DanTex Feb 2020 #81

Rush Limbaugh? Why even mention his name in this discussion? MineralMan Feb 2020 #95

Great post...and it's not rocket science. AncientGeezer Feb 2020 #134

"Really not complicated. No idea why anyone would want to do anything else." ehrnst Feb 2020 #130

Thank you. I swear, that should be an OP, pinned to the top of the Primaries forum. n/t Mister Ed Feb 2020 #136

Thank you. I agree. But certain candidates are exempt from ehrnst Feb 2020 #137

That's the theme of every thread by this poster. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #43

It's so annoying I'm to the point of putting them on ignore. xmas74 Feb 2020 #66

Well it is primary season Anaxamander Feb 2020 #103

And then there's beating a dead horse. xmas74 Feb 2020 #139

I've been there too, but don't hit the button aka-chmeee Feb 2020 #116

Exactly nt xmas74 Feb 2020 #138

(Sigh). All too true. And while I appreciate the passion and persistence, Mister Ed Feb 2020 #69

And only the primaries of the first three states should count NT Rorey Feb 2020 #87

OTOH, you could make this argument... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #7

Yes, but in this case, it would be completely wrong, because DanTex Feb 2020 #13

Only one of my close friends likes Bernie - OhZone Feb 2020 #32

If it's not the majority, no. themaguffin Feb 2020 #33

Yes, although I knew your post was inspired by Sanders, it was presented in the abstract, thesquanderer Feb 2020 #40

Yes. Bernie is currently leading the polls, but that could change, of course. DanTex Feb 2020 #48

" the establishment went ahead and put in their favorite candidate rather than the one that the ehrnst Feb 2020 #128

35% is a bit low to be demanding the nomination, especially if others are only a few points back Celerity Feb 2020 #51

NO. Whomever gets the required amount of delegates boston bean Feb 2020 #78

"And votes are votes. Whoever gets the most votes should be the nominee. Period. Simple." ehrnst Feb 2020 #133

Who got 35% of the votes? Sunsky Feb 2020 #8

Which is why it's so weird that superdelegates are already talking about "stopping Bernie." DanTex Feb 2020 #10

No Sunsky Feb 2020 #55

"Whoever gets the most pledged delegates should be the nominee." ehrnst Feb 2020 #132

So tired of whining and shitty either or fallacies. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #11

Yes, the superdelegates whining about the people voting for the "wrong" candidate is truly tiring. DanTex Feb 2020 #15

Are you pulling this all out of your hat or somewhere else? LanternWaste Feb 2020 #20

Even simpler than that. Just follow the rules that are already set and agreed to. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #21

Absolutely. Follow the rules. I agree. DanTex Feb 2020 #24

You obviously believe that crap. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #28

+1000. ehrnst Feb 2020 #31

"The responsibility that superdelegates have is to decide what is best for this country and what is ehrnst Feb 2020 #35

Best not to re-litigate the 2016 primary IMO. DanTex Feb 2020 #49

"Please stop quoting Bernie Codeine Feb 2020 #62

Not at all. The 2016 discussion requires (a lot of) context. Best not relitigate. Move forward. DanTex Feb 2020 #63

"We have always been at war with Eurasia." nt Codeine Feb 2020 #64

Sorry, Pal. His own words are documented. Same context, same subject - contested convention. ehrnst Feb 2020 #83

Wrong, but again, re-litigating 2016 is not useful. DanTex Feb 2020 #85

You can keep copying and pasting "re-litigating" but that doesn't mean it has any relevance. ehrnst Feb 2020 #91

This is not a good look. showblue22 Feb 2020 #108

Like I said, I have no interest in re-litigating 2016. Different circumstances, as we all know. DanTex Feb 2020 #109

I'll tell you why it matters. showblue22 Feb 2020 #112

Different how? Codeine Feb 2020 #124

SDs exist to prevent another 72 and 84, so people who don't know about history prior to themaguffin Feb 2020 #36

"how about just let the voters have their say! And then whoever gets the most votes is the nominee! ehrnst Feb 2020 #131

Voters don't have a say: delegates do frazzled Feb 2020 #140

I love "Guarantees" with no proof! nt USALiberal Feb 2020 #27

2018 offers a little proof. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #42

Current polls show Bernie leading Trump! nt USALiberal Feb 2020 #44

Polling shows Sanders threatening downticket races. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #46

Such bullshit. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #19

You really dont get it or are you just pretending? honest.abe Feb 2020 #22

I'm sure he understands how he is coming off. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #37

JFC... SidDithers Feb 2020 #25

If Sanders has any actual political skills Codeine Feb 2020 #29

Exactly - OhZone Feb 2020 #34

Oh FFS! blm Feb 2020 #30

Candidate with 35% of votes - when split among bunch of candidates - shouldn't win first ballot. Hoyt Feb 2020 #38

Second ballot. Obviously the 35 candidate should be chosen over the 25. Because 35 is more than 25 DanTex Feb 2020 #50

"Obviously the 35 candidate should be chosen over the 25. Because 35 is more than 25" ehrnst Feb 2020 #127

No, the argument is the candidate that can meet the required threshold should win. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #39

"The responsibility that superdelegates have is to decide what is best for this country and what is ehrnst Feb 2020 #41

Oh well...gonna lose in a landslide if Sanders is the nominee anyway..At least helpisontheway Feb 2020 #45

NTSA. Every morning. Sigh. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #47

As Bernie himself observed, one needs a majority of the delegates comradebillyboy Feb 2020 #53

Best not to re-litigate the 2016 primary IMO. DanTex Feb 2020 #54

Not relitigating 2016 at all. But I am allowed to point out comradebillyboy Feb 2020 #56

2016, a lot of things went down, different circumstances entirely. I prefer not to re-litigate. DanTex Feb 2020 #60

You prefer not to acknowledge the documented flip flop. ehrnst Feb 2020 #96

IOW "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain Codeine Feb 2020 #57

Best not to re-litigate the 2016 primary. Different circumstance entirely. Let's move forward. DanTex Feb 2020 #58

Transparent. nt Codeine Feb 2020 #59

Moving forward in a united democratic fashion to defeat Trump. Yes, transparency is good. DanTex Feb 2020 #61

"Let the voters decide in a transparent manner" ehrnst Feb 2020 #99

Totally different, and you know it as well as I. But I'm not getting into 2016. DanTex Feb 2020 #100

How was it totally different? You can't make the case that it was... ehrnst Feb 2020 #110

In many ways that I don't want to re-litigate, because 2016 is behind us... DanTex Feb 2020 #111

It completely undermines your frantic defense of the strategy that will benefit your candidate ehrnst Feb 2020 #114

Undermines nothing. I'm just not re-litigating all that happened in 2016. Sorry! DanTex Feb 2020 #115

You keep copying and pasting the very same evasion, and can't ever back up your position ehrnst Feb 2020 #117

The dog whistle isn't working. It's just frantic copying and pasting now. ehrnst Feb 2020 #97

Not sure how you think it's a "dog whistle". 2016 was a different circumstance, everyone knows that DanTex Feb 2020 #98

It's just embarrassing for you. You can't defend your position on superdelegates ehrnst Feb 2020 #101

I guess we differ on who is being embarrassed. It happens lol... DanTex Feb 2020 #102

Well, you're the one backing a candidate who has directly contradicted ehrnst Feb 2020 #120

Dan.. look me in the eyes.. Peacetrain Feb 2020 #67

No rule change. It's just a matter of whether the delegates respect the will of the electorate. DanTex Feb 2020 #68

"will of the electorate" means 50%+. With less than 50%, there isn't "will of the electorate" AGeddy Feb 2020 #73

Will of the electorate means whoever got the most votes. Obviously. DanTex Feb 2020 #74

In a case where nobody is over 50%... then NO candidate has the "will of the electorate" AGeddy Feb 2020 #79

So you're saying "let the voters decide" or it's "obviously wrong, and nobody is going to buy it?" ehrnst Feb 2020 #105

"It's just a matter of whether the delegates respect the will of the electorate." ehrnst Feb 2020 #121

+1000 But good luck... ehrnst Feb 2020 #122

If the candidate who gets 25% can convince 25% more to join them, while the one with 35% can't... AGeddy Feb 2020 #70

What's funny about this thread is that if Bernie goes into the convention with 28% AGeddy Feb 2020 #75

Of course not. Whoever gets the most pledged delegates should be the nominee. DanTex Feb 2020 #77

"I wonder why anyone could possibly disagree" AGeddy Feb 2020 #80

Best not to re-litigate the 2016 primary IMO. DanTex Feb 2020 #82

Best to remain consistent in your views of what "will of the electorate" means AGeddy Feb 2020 #84

I've been completely consistent. So has Bernie. DanTex Feb 2020 #86

I don't know about you personally, but Bernie most definitely has not AGeddy Feb 2020 #89

2016 was a different circumstance entirely, best not to re-litigate and move forward instead DanTex Feb 2020 #90

Yes, it was different in that Hillary won the MAJORITY of both the popular vote and delegates... W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #93

No, it really wasn't. AGeddy Feb 2020 #94

How was it a different circumstance? You keep saying that but refuse to actually make the case. ehrnst Feb 2020 #107

LOL. EXTREMELY convenient. NT Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #119

That fact that you wonder that is on you. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #118

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #88

The DNC has almost nothing to do with it. AGeddy Feb 2020 #92

And it's done on a state by state basis by the State Democratic party. George II Feb 2020 #104

Hey!Why Not? aka-chmeee Feb 2020 #113

You don't seem to understand how coalitions work Bucky Feb 2020 #125

Sanders is a Super Delegate - right? JustAnotherGen Feb 2020 #126

I'm already seeing lots of people say if the DNC OliverQ Feb 2020 #135